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Does anyone remember websites?
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#22> You’ve enabled HTTPS-Only Mode for enhanced security, and a HTTPS version of tttthis.com is not available. This, too, is nostalgic, in a way.
It was kind of awesome that you could telnet to port 80, type "GET / HTTP/1.0", press return a couple of times, and receive a web page. Then shitty hotel wifi that injected ads happened, so we had to encrypt traffic that had absolutely no sensitive information.
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#23I am compiling a website on neocites.org ... for about two months now, and I won't be complete for another year. It's basically a place for photos, maps and descriptions of a local community xeriscape garden with about 400 specimens.
Others will take photos and videos of the place throughout the year, and post to social media, where they instantly get a couple dozen thumbs up, and gloat about it. That is not my intention. I want a coffee table book.
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#24Websites do still exist. People do know what they are. There are more of them on the web than there ever have been. Nothing is stopping anyone from creating a website if they want. Nothing is stopping you.
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#25https://www.spacejam.com/1996/
If this is true to the original, I am surprised to see this was table-oriented layout and not a bitmap image with clickable x,y coordinates.
It was common to make tables and use them to assemble a bitmap, where each cell had zero border/margin/padding and an exact size, and contained a "slice" of the image. Web authoring tools (and Photoshop) even had explicit support for generating this sort of thing, as I recall. This was I guess simpler to automate than defining clickable regions of a single image, and it allowed for the individual pieces of the image to be requested in parallel on slow connections (adding another dimension of progressive loading).
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#26> You’ve enabled HTTPS-Only Mode for enhanced security, and a HTTPS version of tttthis.com is not available. This, too, is nostalgic, in a way.
It's silly to try and encrypt everything, and arguably it can be worse for the authors privacy. Sometimes a blog post on a plain http web site doesnt need to be encrypted.
I disagree. The primary threat model for unencrypted http connections is a MITM attack. A middle box (a proxy or router) modifies the response payload to inject malicious content or modify the content. For an ordinary blog or personal website an attacker can gain compute, violate privacy, acquire a (minor) DDOS source, on the blogs users by injecting a script.
Another type of attack would modify the content of the site to suit the attackers purpose - either to hurt the author and/or their message. Consider the damage an attacker can do if they injected CSAM onto a person's blog. The victim's life would be ruined long before the wheels of justice turned (if they turn at all). The one mitigating factor is that you'd need to have reliable control over a relatively stable middle-box to execute this attack, but that's quite feasible. Last but not least don't underestimate the way software grows. Sooner or later someone is going to implement HTTP basic authentication over plain HTTP and, needless to say, that's a bad idea.
Look, I don't like it either. I remember when you could telnet into a server and interact with it. That was good for pedagogy and building a mental model of the protocol. But we have to deal with how things are, not how we want them to be.
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#27The last sentence can’t be true. If you go looking for them, they’re easy to find. The problem is you don’t.
Or, when you do go looking, it doesn’t feel the same. Why?
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#28Does anyone remember geocities, tripod, webrings, and Amazon affiliate links? Pepperidge farm remembers...
I am currently building on neocities.org - that is the old geocities
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#29The early internet was like some settlers' shacks, built uncontrollably and unsystematically whereas the modern web is all skyscrapers, residential and business. Uniform apartments, uniform offices all looking very similar differeing in only subtle interior design details here and there. Should we go back to the shack era? Of course not. But maybe we should start a new era of land exploration and start over. It shoul…
> Should we go back to the shack era? Of course not. This isn’t obvious, at least, we can’t write the idea off with an “of course not.”
Keep in mind the early websites were mostly built by an enthusiast minority, technical or not but willing to learn HTML and Netscape Composer. You can't expect the whole humanity to be as enthusiastic. The skyscraper era, no matter how much we all hate it, makes the web more democratic: it gives everyone some standardized space (Facebook, Youtube, etc) with algorithmized discovery which is parking and elevators if you want to continue the analogy.
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> Should we go back to the shack era? Of course not. This isn’t obvious, at least, we can’t write the idea off with an “of course not.”
Keep in mind the early websites were mostly built by an enthusiast minority, technical or not but willing to learn HTML and Netscape Composer. You can't expect the whole humanity to be as enthusiastic. The skyscraper era, no matter how much we all hate it, makes the web more democratic: it gives everyone some standardized space (Facebook, Youtube, etc) with algorithmized discovery which is parking and elevators if yo…
Hard to live through what social media has done to society over the past decade without at least entertaining the idea that the higher barrier to entry of being online was maybe not a bad thing.