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Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by Larrikin »

reaperducer wrote: post #39
gruez wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this. Not everyone suffers from FOMO. I've only seen one movie that was worth the bother and expense of seeing it in 4K (Rear Window). The rest of the things you mention are mostly for a very small slice of theoretical people with perfect vision in perfectly lit rooms at the perfect height and viewing a…

Pretty sure I read this same comment when the transition from DVD to 1080p/Blu-ray occurred and people were updating their TVs.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by addandsubtract »

MyOutfitIsVague wrote: post #32
gruez wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this.

My experience with HDR has been pretty abysmal on a $500 4K TV. Badly tuned HDR is way worse than no HDR at all. I have 20/20 vision, and I really can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K for video games and movies. I will never do below 4k again on a desktop, but 1080p is more than fine for a TV. Higher framerate makes a far bigger difference than higher resolution for video games too.

You can see the difference in 4K when the bitrate is there, but most streaming platforms compress their videos too much for it to be worth it. It's definitely not the jump that 720p to 1080p is, though. I agree with everything else you said.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by diggan »

stavros wrote: post #37
hamdingers wrote: post #20

For "fun and interesting" consider an LG WebOS TV. Many can be rooted[1] which allows installing a homebrew channel[2] of unauthorized apps or writing your own. I initially did it for Jellyfin before they made it into the official app store, but the Moonlight game streaming app has unlocked many hours of entertainment. 1. https://cani.rootmy.tv 2. https://www.webosbrew.org/

Moonlight is really fantastic. It's worked better than Geforce Now for me. Amazon's thing worked best, but they don't have as many games as my Steam does.

Are you using it over Ethernet or WiFi? I remember I tried Moonlight to a local computer two or three years ago over Ethernet and the latency was still too bad, any ideas if that's better today?

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by diggan »

addandsubtract wrote: post #50
reaperducer wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this. Not everyone suffers from FOMO. I've only seen one movie that was worth the bother and expense of seeing it in 4K (Rear Window). The rest of the things you mention are mostly for a very small slice of theoretical people with perfect vision in perfectly lit rooms at the perfect height and viewing a…

Rear Window? A movie from 1954? Can you explain how that was better in 4K when the footage isn't even 4K?

If it was shot on film, isn't it possible to get 4K from it? Thought that was old news already.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by stavros »

diggan wrote: post #53
stavros wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moonlight is really fantastic. It's worked better than Geforce Now for me. Amazon's thing worked best, but they don't have as many games as my Steam does.

Are you using it over Ethernet or WiFi? I remember I tried Moonlight to a local computer two or three years ago over Ethernet and the latency was still too bad, any ideas if that's better today?

It goes gaming desktop PC -> ethernet -> fiber -> 5g -> wifi -> Amazon Fire stick at a flat 100km away from the PC, and I still finished Expedition 33 on it with no problems.

I'd say definitely give it another go.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by hank808 »

addandsubtract wrote: post #50
reaperducer wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this. Not everyone suffers from FOMO. I've only seen one movie that was worth the bother and expense of seeing it in 4K (Rear Window). The rest of the things you mention are mostly for a very small slice of theoretical people with perfect vision in perfectly lit rooms at the perfect height and viewing a…

Rear Window? A movie from 1954? Can you explain how that was better in 4K when the footage isn't even 4K?

It was on film, probably 35mm. That film contains more information than 4k video. Resolution is between 4K and 6K.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by meatmanek »

addandsubtract wrote: post #50
reaperducer wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're missing out on resolution (4K) and picture quality (HDR, contrast ratios, color gamut) improvements by doing this. Not everyone suffers from FOMO. I've only seen one movie that was worth the bother and expense of seeing it in 4K (Rear Window). The rest of the things you mention are mostly for a very small slice of theoretical people with perfect vision in perfectly lit rooms at the perfect height and viewing a…

Rear Window? A movie from 1954? Can you explain how that was better in 4K when the footage isn't even 4K?

Obligatory Technology Connections video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVpABCxiDaU

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by doublerabbit »

diggan wrote: post #53
stavros wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moonlight is really fantastic. It's worked better than Geforce Now for me. Amazon's thing worked best, but they don't have as many games as my Steam does.

Are you using it over Ethernet or WiFi? I remember I tried Moonlight to a local computer two or three years ago over Ethernet and the latency was still too bad, any ideas if that's better today?

Moonlight works flawlessly for me and I use FreeBSD as a daily driver. Of all OSes to play games.

UnRaid + KVM VM + GPU Passthrough with Moonlight has meant I no longer have to dual boot to game.

60FPS at 1080p on a 4k screen. 4k struggles but I think that's more my GPU then anything else. I do have 2x of them.

Re: Ask HN: What's the best hackable smart TV?

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Post by zeusk »

paulgerhardt wrote: post #45

Do recommend the LG C series (C5 or C4 are new or the C1 series if you want a deal on classifieds - same hardware as the higher end models but needs a firmware bit flip). The OS is very rootable and it makes a great TV that doubles as a monitor. Supports free sync / g-sync. OLED is nice at this scale. Text is very readable, refresh rate is good. It uses the same panels as the fancier G series in the larger sizes. One…

> same hardware as the higher end models but needs a firmware bit flip

Is this firmware bit flip known? couldn't find anything off google.

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