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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by mrintegrity »

shinratdr wrote: post #66
mrintegrity wrote: post #33

Is it just me or has Apple "slavishly" copied the google maps app functionality, icons (that arrow looks like a copy paste) and rounded corners? The hypocrisy here is just mind blowing.. And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung

> And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung The only thing it demonstrates is that you have no idea what you're taking about. The app "functionality" is "being a map" something Google has never patented. The UI elements are Apples, as they designed and built the iOS Maps app. The only thing here that's a slavish copy is your comment. Reminds me strongly of the comments of…

I stand corrected... Totally thought maps was a google app!

Regardless, apple are still massive hypocrites for all of the many other features they rip off from android etc while being shocked and outraged that someone might do that to them.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by masklinn »

omgsean wrote: post #13
masklinn wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Surly it's not legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds? Of course it is. The only ways for it to be illegal would be 1. if it infringed on freedom of speech (no way that's going to hold) or 2. an antitrust action (which would require Apple to be a monopoly)

I don't believe Apple has any responsibility to provide freedom of speech within their closed ecosystem.

Hence "no way that's going to hold"

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

Steko wrote: post #119
runjake wrote: post #112

Jim Dalrymple (who is an unofficial mouthpiece for Apple) says nope: http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/09/20/on-the-rumor-that-goog... If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little.

"If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little." Based on this logic google should withhold search (after contract runs out) and only serve youtube in VP8. Releasing Maps soon but not immediately for Google (which is what it looks like they are doing) wins in several ways: (1) re…

Nope. Maps is a huge differentiator. Search & Youtube is not. Windows and Android phones have good maps, iOS doesn't. No one will care much if the search is switched to bing or if youtube was not available as an app. Also youtube makes it money via ads which it shows in the latest app. I don't think google is monetizing maps much.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by Navarr »

Steko wrote: post #119
runjake wrote: post #112

Jim Dalrymple (who is an unofficial mouthpiece for Apple) says nope: http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/09/20/on-the-rumor-that-goog... If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little.

"If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little." Based on this logic google should withhold search (after contract runs out) and only serve youtube in VP8. Releasing Maps soon but not immediately for Google (which is what it looks like they are doing) wins in several ways: (1) re…

I think the biggest thing, which is something Google can't bring to the table, is that any app that used the native API will now loom like crap. (iirc, that's how it worked)

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by randomdata »

runn1ng wrote: post #59
qq66 wrote: post #54

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Sorry - I meant the decision to put an App in the App Store. If the Apple Maps are bad as people seem to be proclaiming, Google should let iOS 6 brew up ill will with Apple's customer base, especially since Apple users tend to upgrade their OS's immediately, and use it to promote Android.

With their own map app, they can push location-based advertisments and have greater control over it. Google is made on advertisments. Google wants as many people to use its maps as possible.

> Google wants as many people to use its maps as possible.

If that were true, they would offer the service for free. As it stands, for normal contracts, only the first 25,000 requests per day are free[1]. If we assume Google wasn't willing to give Apple a special pricing deal, with 300M+ iOS devices in the wild, Apple could easily be left shelling out a fortune each day to user their data.

[1] https://developers.google.com/maps/faq#usage_pricing

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by Tichy »

randomdata wrote: post #125
runn1ng wrote: post #59

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With their own map app, they can push location-based advertisments and have greater control over it. Google is made on advertisments. Google wants as many people to use its maps as possible.

> Google wants as many people to use its maps as possible. If that were true, they would offer the service for free. As it stands, for normal contracts, only the first 25,000 requests per day are free[1]. If we assume Google wasn't willing to give Apple a special pricing deal, with 300M+ iOS devices in the wild, Apple could easily be left shelling out a fortune each day to user their data. [1] https://developers.goog…

I am pretty sure using a maps app is more like visiting maps.google.de in a browser, that is, it would be free. The pricing link you gave is for embedding Google Maps into your product. If anything, I suspect Google paid Apple to keep maps on the iPhone, and now Apple's demands were getting too much.

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Post by jlgreco »

qq66 wrote: post #86
jlgreco wrote: post #78

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You're right. I think the thought process likely to go through most consumers heads is either: "This new maps thing sucks. Oh look, I can get Google's maps again. Thanks Google!" or "This new maps sucks. Oh well, the rest of the phone is great." Google passing up the chance to keep people who already like one of their products happy on the off chance that they can pry Apple consumers away from Apple doesn't strike me…

Do most users actively know that the tiles in the iOS 5 Maps application are served by Google? The app itself is Apple top to bottom -- the display does say "Google" in the lower-left-hand corner -- but it would be interesting to know how users think of their iPhone maps application.

I should imagine that anyone who cares enough to become distressed by Apple's maps will be able to figure it out.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by chrischen »

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #123
Steko wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little." Based on this logic google should withhold search (after contract runs out) and only serve youtube in VP8. Releasing Maps soon but not immediately for Google (which is what it looks like they are doing) wins in several ways: (1) re…

Nope. Maps is a huge differentiator. Search & Youtube is not. Windows and Android phones have good maps, iOS doesn't. No one will care much if the search is switched to bing or if youtube was not available as an app. Also youtube makes it money via ads which it shows in the latest app. I don't think google is monetizing maps much.

I agree YouTube may not be, but search is pretty big. However, Google would have a hard time blocking google.com from iPhone users without being anticompetitive.

They can not expend the effort to create a google maps app for iphone, but that's not the same as being actively anticompetitive as they would have to be if they wanted to block search from iPhone users.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by [deleted] »

boundlessdreamz wrote: post #123
Steko wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If I were Google, I'd hold off on releasing a Maps for iOS just a little while. It's firmly in the "killer app" category at the moment and might help spur Android adoption just a little." Based on this logic google should withhold search (after contract runs out) and only serve youtube in VP8. Releasing Maps soon but not immediately for Google (which is what it looks like they are doing) wins in several ways: (1) re…

Nope. Maps is a huge differentiator. Search & Youtube is not. Windows and Android phones have good maps, iOS doesn't. No one will care much if the search is switched to bing or if youtube was not available as an app. Also youtube makes it money via ads which it shows in the latest app. I don't think google is monetizing maps much.

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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by jlgreco »

ryanhuff wrote: post #108
revelation wrote: post #20

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Maps don't magically improve through usage. Fix a POI here and there from user input is not going to cut it for competing with Google Maps. For that, you need LIDARs on the road.

How does LIDAR fix POI?

LIDAR itself? It doesn't really. A fleet of cars with, in addition to LIDAR, cameras that provide you with source material for as much OCRing as you have server-farms to afford? That helps.
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