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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Why on earth should your brand new account be considered trustworthy when it comes to commenting on either party?

It shouldn't, nor should anyone's accounts on most topics. You should do the research and draw your own conclusions.

It's hard to do your own research when all the sources are polluted with a character assassination by a competitor

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

#394

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> Yesterday Huggingface Deleted the account of a talented User @BasedBase which was creative in open weights (threatening the big techs). I looked it up it found a pretty clear reason they'd delete it themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o0st2o/basedba...

That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts https://vimeo.com/1125658282 https://vimeo.com/1125657672 https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I can’t help but notice that Twitter and TikTok didn’t get called for that session. In November 2023, Twitter went from a zero tolerance policy for violent speech to “we may remove or reduce the visibility of violent speech.” Seems really relevant for the topic of the hearings! And yet. I’m thus unwilling to take Rep. Comey’s decision to call Reddit to testify as evidence of anything. Feels more like political theate…

While Twitter has many problems it does seem to do a reasonable job of not promoting hate and violence towards a large audience. There's many messages critical of immigrants on my timeline but none calling for violence against them (or any other group that Twitter users dislike). Meanwhile posts about violence against Trump, Musk or celebrating the dead of Kirk did get massive upvotes and visibility on some of the bi…

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

#396

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> Yesterday Huggingface Deleted the account of a talented User @BasedBase which was creative in open weights (threatening the big techs). I looked it up it found a pretty clear reason they'd delete it themselves? https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o0st2o/basedba...

That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts https://vimeo.com/1125658282 https://vimeo.com/1125657672 https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

You're just wrong.

Vibes are not a meaningful comparison.

You can't compare different quantizations(Q4_K_M & Q4_K_XL) and also use a temp of 0.7 and use that for any meaningful comparison.

All difference you notice could be either due to temp randomness or quantization differences even if the original weights are exactly the same.

Also these were likely sourced differently so the quantizers could've used different quantization importance matrizes or process.

The weights are the same, the weights are all that matters.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

#397
I've seen a lot of shady moderation on reddit and it's one reason I quit using it. There is the obvious brigading, mods on powertrips and but also massive probably paid astro turfing campaigns. Reddit has gone downhill substantially in the last five years. HN is not immune either, but at least we dont' have a 'mods on powertrips' problem, in fact the opposite.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

The reason why Reddit is being "investigated" in this way is clearly and without any doubt political and has nothing to do with Reddit's moderation. There are strong anti-free-speech forces in the USA currently, and Reddit is #1 on their target list.

Anyone who can't see that is blind on the right eye, which is unfortunately a common phenomenon in certain circles nowadays.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

#399

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That´s is incorrect, I demonstrated how all that is not true. The models were 100% distill and very powerful. Hard facts https://vimeo.com/1125658282 https://vimeo.com/1125657672 https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1o1m9nz/the_mos...

The facts are not very hard...

What do you mean the facts are not very hard. If you understand just a bit of LLM you will clearly identify a Distill LLM. All the point is to delete the user because he had created some incredible models beating The best proprietary models out there. The pretext was that he was a fraud and his models were not a distill but a copy. Therefor I show clearly that he was framed and his work deserves credit. I still have the models and scripts for all the procedure. I am not interested to argue further, but it is clearly visible to me. The post in HN also is well voted and most importantly commented, meaning that users have a lot to say about it.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Reddit has a moderation problem, and it's a big one. They've now been asked to appear in front of Congress to address concerns about politically motivated violence being incited through their platform: https://oversight.house.gov/release/chairman-comer-invites-c... Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else…

> Personally I believe I've seen more people in the past few years wish a politically motivated death on somebody else via Reddit, than I have anywhere else in my life.

What you'll also see is a lot of accounts banned just for saying that they can't wait for say Vladimir Putin to die. I'm sure there are ways in which you could construe that to be 'politically motivated death' but that's just a weak excuse to ban an account ignoring the deeper subtext. Wanting mass murderers to shuffle off their mortal coil is a net positive for the world.

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