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A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by kylebenzle »

wahnfrieden wrote: post #122
SilverElfin wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A bad actor mod of a popular subreddit can persist for years, visibly, without people managing either to oust the mod, or to take down the sub's influence. This happens because the regular users have no power. I remember seeing some article that said a small number of mods control most of the popular subreddits. Many of them put their own bias into the system by banning users, banning sources, deleting content base…

Ghislaine Maxwell was maybe one of these powerful mods. But it is another contested conspiracy theory. Evidence pasted: The Name “Maxwellhill” The username directly references “Maxwell,” which is not a common surname. Ghislaine Maxwell grew up at Headington Hill Hall, which was nicknamed “Maxwell Hill” after her father, Robert Maxwell, bought it. This isn’t a vague reference it’s oddly specific and personal. It’s lik…

No surprised that Reddit moderators are pedophiles, that's pretty obvious just by using it for a horrible site. Run by a bunch of sickos, the owner, spez even had an underage pedo lite sub for years.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by b112 »

dostick wrote: post #221
neilv wrote: post #84

I don't know about this particular case, but, generally... bad actor subreddit moderators have been an occasional thing for well over a decade. And it's also been widely known for that long that Reddit is an influential venue in which to take over a corner -- for marketing or propaganda. What's an equal concern to me is how insufficiently resilient Reddit collectively appears to be, in face of this. A bad actor mod o…

Not cool you calling users “peasants”, they can’t do anything. Have you posted on Reddit, like, with actual personal opinion? You will quickly find out that it’s a moderator’s walled garden of opinions and your posts removed without explanation and notification. and complaining does not do anything.

I think you have it inversed. As I read it, the parent calling the users 'peasants' was to highlight precisely what you're saying. The users have no power, yes? As peasants didn't?

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by baobun »

michaelnovati wrote: post #164
LilBytes wrote: post #137

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With sources.

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I'm sorry, what does anything there have to do with any of the claims people in this thread are asking you to back up?

I don't see anything there that adds anything to the story except solidifying the picture of you as an obsessive stalker. It certainly doesn't help your case.

In case I overlooked some key detail, please point it out.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by carabiner »

Finbel wrote: post #200
fwipsy wrote: post #156

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Funny that you should mention a Reddit-originated conspiracy theory on an article about how Reddit is deteriorating as a source of information. I found this blog post: https://coagulopath.com/ghislaine-maxwell-does-not-have-a-se... which appears to conclusively refute the main evidence above, but I haven't independently verified. If you have stronger evidence than what appears to be copy-pasted AI output, I will re-e…

Your link actually don't touch upon what I found most compelling: That /u/maxwellhill stopped positing two days before her arrest and haven't posted again since then.

I've gotta wonder how often this happens in the general case: a prolific user and mod of large subreddits stops posting abruptly without notice. How many users are as active as maxwellhill was with similar seniority? Maybe a few thousand? In a given year, how many of them abandon Reddit suddenly? It seems like some scraping and basic analytics could yield an answer, and then we'd know the posterior.

Don't know if maxwellhill was ghislaine, but whoever he was, I think some big life event caused him to leave, and that it wasn't voluntary.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by treyd »

Braxton1980 wrote: post #83
treyd wrote: post #63

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It's possible for the majority opinion to be wrong and contradict hard facts that are grounded in reality. For a couple thousand of years the opinion was that the universe was composed of 4-5 elements (earth, water, air, fire, and maybe ether).

During those thousands of years was there information showing the majority was incorrect?

Yes, they could see chemical reactions happening around them all the time, they just didn't understand what what they were looking at.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by neya »

I wonder what makes a platform like HN work, but not the others.

In almost every other platform moderators are just sad, angry little entitled narcissists who love exerting control over others. This has been proven time and again across multiple platforms:

Wikipedia

Quora

Stackoverflow (surprise, surprise!)

Reddit

..

And basically anything else that depends on those so called moderators for fairness and equality. It would be interesting to experiment using an LLM with explicit set of hard guidelines (like outlined in the Reddit's code of conduct) and see how it behaves. Sure, LLM's are biased due to their training sources, but I'm curious to see if they will be as biased as human moderators. We need the HN formula for the rest of the platforms (I know HN doesn't use AI) with or without AI.

Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by NoMoreNicksLeft »

neuroelectron wrote: post #180
NoMoreNicksLeft wrote: post #155

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>It's basically just completely incoherent. Like many conspiracy theories, These are absurdly strong claims. This isn't an incoherent theory... it's inconclusive, sure. Unprovable? Probably (difficult to imagine what would have to change to find out with certainty one way or the other).

Precisely, but the coincidences that line up are on the side on improbable she was not the mod. (See link in OP) i.e. it's almost impossible for to have been anybody else. The supposed "mod chats" are clearly fabrications met to cover it up.

There's no need to respond to counter-evidence that can't be independently verified. The people claiming that (Reddit corporate, basically) have an interest in distancing themselves from her.

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Post by cindyllm »

sizzlers wrote: post #227
michaelnovati wrote: post #215

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Agreed, try to figure out how I benefit in any way from Codesmith's decline. Not theoretical, but hard facts. I know of THREE people that considered going to Codesmith and went to Formation instead. One of them I tried very hard to convince to go to Codesmith and she instead got a job on her own and then came to Formation. All of this for three customers? It doesn't add up and there are some missing pieces in the sto…

Why did you obsessively stalk and harass people? Very, very weird behavior.

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Re: A competitor crippled a $23.5M bootcamp by becoming a Reddit moderator

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Post by baq »

binsquare wrote: post #161

This is oddly a case to signify there is value in an AI moderation tools - to avoid bias inherent to human actors.

Getting rid of bias in LLM training is a major research problem and anecdotally e.g., to my surprise, Gemini infers gender of the user depending on the prompt/what the question is about; by extension it’ll have many other assumptions about race, nationality, political views, etc.
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