Maybe we should start calling it iceOS
Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
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Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#12For anyone remotely surprised:
Apple Told Some Apple TV+ Show Developers Not To Anger China - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/apple-ch...
Apple quietly deletes nearly a hundred VPNs that allowed Russians to get around censorship - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41712728
Apple CEO Tim Cook "secretly" signed an agreement worth more than $275 billion with Chinese officials, promising that Apple would help to develop China's economy and technological capabilities - https://www.macrumors.com/2021/12/07/apple-ceo-tim-cook-secr...
Apple telemetry on every app opened - https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours/
Apple is lobbying against a bill aimed at stopping forced labor in China - https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/11/20/apple-u...
Apple is notoriously strict with App Store rules, but gives China’s WeChat a free pass - https://reclaimthenet.org/apple-app-store-wechat-china
Apple drops Hong Kong police-tracking app used by protesters - https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49995688
Last week, the Chinese government ordered Apple to remove several widely used messaging apps—WhatsApp, Threads, Signal, and Telegram—from its app store. [..] In a statement, Apple said that it was told to remove the apps because of “national security concerns,” adding that it is “obligated to follow the laws in the countries where we operate, even when we disagree.” [but they don't disagree so much that they'd stop locking their devices against their users] - https://www.cjr.org/the_media_today/apple_appstore_china_cen...
Apple happily locks you out of your own devices, then cries "just complying with local governments" when those locks are used against their users. They're the person holding you down while others kick you. Every bit as guilty - especially when they see their users kicked again and again, yet continue holding them down.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#13Why don't citizens have the right to track federal agencies? Don't they serve us? Apple is capitulating to autocratic rule.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#14For anyone remotely surprised: Apple Told Some Apple TV+ Show Developers Not To Anger China - https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/apple-ch... Apple quietly deletes nearly a hundred VPNs that allowed Russians to get around censorship - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41712728 Apple CEO Tim Cook "secretly" signed an agreement worth more than $275 billion with Chinese officials, promising that Apple…
At the same time they are happy to play the defender of Human Right.
Apple CEO Tim Cook: 'Privacy Is A Fundamental Human Right'. - https://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2015/10/01/44...
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#15This headline feels loaded.
“Protected class” has a legal definition.
“Targeted group” is the language that the Apple guidelines use.
This annoys me because I agree that ICE shouldn’t be a protected class (e.g. have the same legal status as minorities)… but no one is saying that they are.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is 404 media banned?
I asked ChatGPT and it linked me to a post dang responded to. It’s related to their paywall. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42308348
That policy deserves re-evaluation. I don't pay for 404 Media. But they're breaking stories on this issue. Banning them de facto bans discussion of not only Apple's App Store monopoly, but also Cupertino's capitulation to this administration.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#17There's a national security argument for the EU banning non-European app stores.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#18This headline feels loaded. “Protected class” has a legal definition. “Targeted group” is the language that the Apple guidelines use. This annoys me because I agree that ICE shouldn’t be a protected class (e.g. have the same legal status as minorities)… but no one is saying that they are.
I don't know why you feel it's loaded if the language of "targeted group" is accompanied with every single group that is a protected class.
> 1.1.1 Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or harm a targeted individual or group. Professional political satirists and humorists are generally exempt from this requirement.
This "ackchyually" behavior from HN is so bizarre.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#19This headline feels loaded. “Protected class” has a legal definition. “Targeted group” is the language that the Apple guidelines use. This annoys me because I agree that ICE shouldn’t be a protected class (e.g. have the same legal status as minorities)… but no one is saying that they are.
I don't know why you feel it's loaded if the language of "targeted group" is accompanied with every single group that is a protected class. > 1.1.1 Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or harm a targeted indi…
It doesn’t cover every protected class. You can look them up.
> This "ackchyually" behavior from HN is so bizarre.
Folks generally want to discuss the facts here, not hyperbole. The headline is hyperbolic. The fact is that Apple isn’t saying ICE is a “protected class”. The content of the article doesn’t even back this point up.
Re: Apple defined ICE as a "protected class" in blocking anti-ICE apps
#20This headline feels loaded. “Protected class” has a legal definition. “Targeted group” is the language that the Apple guidelines use. This annoys me because I agree that ICE shouldn’t be a protected class (e.g. have the same legal status as minorities)… but no one is saying that they are.
I don't know why you feel it's loaded if the language of "targeted group" is accompanied with every single group that is a protected class. > 1.1.1 Defamatory, discriminatory, or mean-spirited content, including references or commentary about religion, race, sexual orientation, gender, national/ethnic origin, or other targeted groups, particularly if the app is likely to humiliate, intimidate, or harm a targeted indi…
>This "ackchyually" behavior from HN is so bizarre.
Demanding rhetorical precision is a wholly predictable backlash from 20yr of language games being a key element of a lot of the rhetoric that got us to where we are.