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Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by zarify »

capo wrote: post #43
cooldeal wrote: post #16

Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

Why would GMaps degrade in quality? Apple's might improve but Google's are on Android devices, and they have another key data source in StreetView.

Well, given Google's past history with iOS apps, they might just release a shit app. Your data is only as good as your interface to it.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by ktsmith »

baddox wrote: post #44
capo wrote: post #43

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Why would GMaps degrade in quality? Apple's might improve but Google's are on Android devices, and they have another key data source in StreetView.

As map data changes over time (road construction, POI movement, etc.), Google Maps could fall out of date. Of course, I doubt that's a major threat, since Google will presumably still be the primary maps platform on Android and the desktop web.

How is Google's data going to fall out of date? There are millions of activated android devices providing them data.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by mortenjorck »

nostromo wrote: post #21

This map uproar seems a tad hyperbolic. I used it this morning and I was actually pleasantly surprised. My map experience wasn't worse as I expected, but actually much better with turn by turn. The people most upset seem to generally be edge cases. I'm sure Apple will work those out as complaints roll in. Google has had 7 years to perfect maps. Apple feels maybe a year behind in some respects and a year ahead in othe…

51% of the world currently lives in cities.[1] 79% of Americans do. The preferred mode of transportation in cities is public transit – a highly useful competency of the old Maps app in which Apple has replaced the UX of "here's how to get there from here" to "hey, go look in the App Store."

51% of the world. 79% of Americans "Edge cases," you say?

[1]http://www.globalhealthfacts.org/data/topic/map.aspx?ind=83

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by discodave »

shinratdr wrote: post #66
mrintegrity wrote: post #33

Is it just me or has Apple "slavishly" copied the google maps app functionality, icons (that arrow looks like a copy paste) and rounded corners? The hypocrisy here is just mind blowing.. And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung

> And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung The only thing it demonstrates is that you have no idea what you're taking about. The app "functionality" is "being a map" something Google has never patented. The UI elements are Apples, as they designed and built the iOS Maps app. The only thing here that's a slavish copy is your comment. Reminds me strongly of the comments of…

The phone "design" is "being a phone" something Apple has never patented. The UI elements are Samsungs, as they designed and built the Samsung Galazy.

FTFY

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by sandee »

clark-kent wrote: post #81
msbarnett wrote: post #73

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How to understand this in 3 easy steps: 1) Build a product. Any product, doesn't matter. 2) Walk into Wal-Mart and demand that they sell it. 3) Watch them laugh you out of the store. Stores aren't under any obligation whatsoever to sell something just because you, or I, or Google, wants to sell it in them.

That's because Walmart is not a marketplace like ebay. An app store is a marketplace with terms and conditions, any one that meets those terms should be allowed to list their app.

"should" be allowed OR is it "may" be allowed (if apple pleases).

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by fpgeek »

0xABADC0DA wrote: post #79
juiceandjuice wrote: post #41

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This is such a stupid assumption. Apple's maps will never reach Google's. Why? Because Google's business model is so heavily dependent on highly accurate maps at so many levels. There's been posts on HN regarding Google's usage of Streetview/OCR to improve their map directions, and it's absolutely critical that their maps be the absolute highest quality in terms of content and accuracy of that content for their drive…

Apple's maps will never reach Google's. There is one way Apple's maps already surpass Google's: no advertising. For instance the iOS 5 Youtube app never showed ads, whereas the new app store one shows tons of them. Sometimes 1/4th of the screen is advertisement. I'm sure it will be the same way for maps. Looking up a bus route, looking for used cars for cheap? Oh you are walking someplace, wouldn't you like a bicycle…

The advertising isn't intrusive in the Android version of Maps.

It's also worth noting that, like search advertisements, Maps advertisements have the potential to be useful. If I'm looking for a restaurant near some location, restaurants that care enough to advertise in Maps for that location could easily be worth considering.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by fpgeek »

kyleslattery wrote: post #96

Jim Dalrymple says no: http://www.loopinsight.com/2012/09/20/on-the-rumor-that-goog...

Dueling anonymous sources. Wonderful.

That being said, 9to5Mac seems to emphasize that an app was submitted and Jim Dalrymple seems to emphasize that it isn't sitting in review.

There's one simple way those could be consistent: an app could have been submitted and rejected. Google's and Apple's different points-of-view might even be giving us the contrasting spins on the situation.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by dvhh »

jmelloy wrote: post #72
masklinn wrote: post #12

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"Duplicates a native service" would be my guess". "We'll refuse what the fuck we want" is an other possibility.

I don't believe they've used that in a while. They let Chrome & Sparrow on without any complaints.

but they are both severly crippled on iOS, chrome is just a safari skin, and sparrow cannot be used as a default app for mail on iOS cannot use notification for new mail unless using 3rd party services (if you are trusting them with you email credentials).

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by fpgeek »

mirkules wrote: post #48
recoiledsnake wrote: post #29

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>The people most upset seem to generally be edge cases I love it how you dismiss 99% of people and the globe as an edge case by your anecdote of it working well for you. Let me take a guess, you live on the West Coast where Apple engineers live?

The OP's point is that this feels a lot like Antennagate 2010, where a large number of non-Apple users latched onto the fact that there was something wrong with Apple products, and complained louder than the actual Apple users. At this point, we can call all the evidence anecdotal until we see some hard numbers on how much map data is actually incorrect, and what actual percentage of the population is affected (I'm n…

To me, Google's tone at their pre-WWDC Maps event (and the effort they made to demonstrate things on iOS devices) doesn't seem consistent with the hypothesis that they decided to force Apple's hand.
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