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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by Tichy »

guimarin wrote: post #37
ChuckMcM wrote: post #18

Ok, this is an interesting twist to the story. See my comments elsewhere on why I don't think an App version of Google Maps would see the light of day (if it did that would definitely count as 'plan C' in my book). Fun times.

Apple lost this particular battle ( mobile search ) the day Google bought Android. OSM is cool as we know, but it was not deployed until now, and the reaction is epic. Apple will fight the good fight like bing is doing in web search, but ultimately will be found wanting, just like bing. The only f-u play Apple has left is to spend billions of dollars making OSM on par with GoogleMaps, contributing that knowledge 'ups…

I had this idea recently of splitting the internet into two internets: one for Apple fans and one for Apple haters. Apart from getting rid of a lot of flamewars, Apple could rule supreme in the Apple internet, be the best search engine there and so on. If you never know that there are better options, you can be happy.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by lftl »

capo wrote: post #43
cooldeal wrote: post #16

Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

Why would GMaps degrade in quality? Apple's might improve but Google's are on Android devices, and they have another key data source in StreetView.

I think Gruber was postulating that Apple would continue updating the app to take advantage of iOS in deeper ways while Google wouldn't put the same level of effort into the iOS version of the app, making it stagnate. So more of degrading of the iOS experience than anything related to map data.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by nikcub »

capo wrote: post #7

Duplicates a native service Surly it can't be legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds?! and on that subject where is the talkative Google search update? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/building-search-engin...

Apple are already being investigated in a number of ongoing cases by the FTC, DOJ and ITC for their App Store practices[1].

I really doubt they would have the balls to block Google Maps with so much spotlight on them already.

[1] http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-11/ftc-said-to-prepare...

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by qq66 »

Tichy wrote: post #49
qq66 wrote: post #42

If this is true, then Google is making a catastrophically bad tactical error, or Apple Maps are not as horrendously awful as the blogosphere is making them out to be (haven't had a chance to try them myself).

This was Apple's decision, not Google's.

Sorry - I meant the decision to put an App in the App Store. If the Apple Maps are bad as people seem to be proclaiming, Google should let iOS 6 brew up ill will with Apple's customer base, especially since Apple users tend to upgrade their OS's immediately, and use it to promote Android.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by ryannielsen »

mrintegrity wrote: post #33

Is it just me or has Apple "slavishly" copied the google maps app functionality, icons (that arrow looks like a copy paste) and rounded corners? The hypocrisy here is just mind blowing.. And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung

If you're accusing Apple of copying iOS 5's Maps app for iOS 6's Maps app, you're accusing Apple of copying itself. Google provided the backend data and map tiles for Maps prior to iOS 6, but Apple wrote the app itself.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by danielweber »

capo wrote: post #43
cooldeal wrote: post #16

Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

Why would GMaps degrade in quality? Apple's might improve but Google's are on Android devices, and they have another key data source in StreetView.

And Google's self-driving cars. It's not going to generate much data in the next few years, but the two products each add a lot of value to the other.

It's easy to believe that Apple's maps will improve, but thinking that Google's will stagnate? Bah.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by Tichy »

qq66 wrote: post #54
Tichy wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was Apple's decision, not Google's.

Sorry - I meant the decision to put an App in the App Store. If the Apple Maps are bad as people seem to be proclaiming, Google should let iOS 6 brew up ill will with Apple's customer base, especially since Apple users tend to upgrade their OS's immediately, and use it to promote Android.

Hm, maybe - but withholding maps from iOS could be considered evil and backfire into Google antipathy. Also I the impact might not be so great after all - fans will be fans...

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by runn1ng »

qq66 wrote: post #54
Tichy wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This was Apple's decision, not Google's.

Sorry - I meant the decision to put an App in the App Store. If the Apple Maps are bad as people seem to be proclaiming, Google should let iOS 6 brew up ill will with Apple's customer base, especially since Apple users tend to upgrade their OS's immediately, and use it to promote Android.

With their own map app, they can push location-based advertisments and have greater control over it. Google is made on advertisments.

Google wants as many people to use its maps as possible.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Post by olalonde »

cooldeal wrote: post #16

Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading.

By that logic, Apple Maps would never reach Google Maps anyways as there are way more people using Android phones and/or web-based Google Maps then there are iPhone users. Regardless, the article "How Google Builds Its Maps"[0], which was recently submitted on HN, seems to indicate that Google improves the bulk of its map data through Google employees rather then through user feedback (although I suspect it's a mix of both).

[0] http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/09/how-go...

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