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Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

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Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#91
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Chess.com is a scam anyway. Rather than comparing the price of Norwegian Chess.cok to Nigerian Chess.con you should be comparing to lichess.org. They have a better app and plenty of people to play with, without any paywalling or marketing or rent-seeking.

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Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#92

It seems like the US has really cheap pricing compared to Western Europe, especially when you consider the poorer countries such as Portugal, Italy, Spain etc. I wonder if they can get away charging higher prices in these countries because chess is more popular there.

... low pricing

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#93

They priced me out of a subscription. £15 a month in the UK for an online chess game is crazy. I've paid for 3 months but this is my last. I'm only interested in Game review, but there are about 50 other sub-categories on their site that i don't use. Only their top tier of membership provides game review and to be honest it's not even that good. The game review is about the top 'computer' move, not what a human shoul…

Assuming you can self-host, you may be interested in OpenChess-Insights, abandonned but still working (on Linux, small error L420 in template/analysis.html).

It's a interesting PoC.

https://github.com/LinkAnJarad/OpenChess-Insights

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough, when incorporating, "to make profit" is usually not part of the stated mission, usually it's something along the lines of "to make chess software"

Those missions are generally for employee alignment, recruiting, customer facing marketing. “Making money” doesn’t work for employees that don’t share ownership of the business and are paid at market rate (IOW as low as the market will bear)

Not really, they are part of the charter granted by government and they bind the company in its legal capacities.

Companies are de jure entities, they exist not de facto, but by registration with the state. For many reasons, you or others cannot go to courts and claim different things about a company as a separate entity from its owners without previously having declared to the state and courts that such a company exists and what the rules of the company were.

The mission of a company are thus part of the rules defined for a company at creation, such that if an owner made its riches in oil prospecting, but also had a company whose mission was software development, then other partners of the second company, or creditors in case of bankruptcy, would have no claim to riches that came from oil prospecting. For example.

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#95
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Steam used to have (until 2016) a two tier regonal pricing in the EU (EU1 and EU2) but they had to stop it because it was discrimination that people in Sweden paid more for a game than people in Bulgaria. Now everyone in the EU pays the same as people in Sweden. And of course games haven't become cheaper either

There would be similar pushback if Steam started selling games for cheaper in Greenville, Alabama vs New York City. Plenty of regions in the USA have way worse economic disparity than the two you have highlighted. The point of being a single economic/political bloc is to be able to negotiate collectively and work towards a balance.

Eh you'd be surprised. GDP per capita in Bulgaria in 2024 was just $17,412 compared to $57,723 in Sweden (331% increase) while GDP per capita in Alabama was $61,846 compared to $116,883 in New York (189% increase). America's a lot more socioeconomically homogeneous compared to the EU due to Federal spending and a more integrated economy.

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#96
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no reason to speculate about who the future shareholder will be, nor is there any good reason to just assume that favouring short-term gains will favour the current shareholders more. It's also unknown if a shareholder would prefer long-, mid- or short term gains. Favouring short term gains over anything else is obviously wrong – Amazon could sell AWS for 5 billion dollars tomorrow, but I don't think you'd ar…

>nor is there any good reason to just assume that favouring short-term gains will favour the current shareholders more The reason is that it's a situation that's bound to happen. If I plan to be invested in a company for a specific length of time (for whatever reason) any decisions that benefit the company beyond that term do not benefit me. If those decisions actually harm the company in the short term then they wor…

Why would the future value of the company not benefit you? Do your shares get stolen or cease to exist? I assumed you were to sell them.

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#98
post #62

Eh, the pricing should be tailored to the individual. Give each individual exactly the highest price point they can handle. Regional pricing is so yesteryear... (I think I'm kidding. Am I?)

This is taught in microecon 101.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_discrimination

Or in any basic market where you have to haggle for everyday goods such as food markets in poorer countries.

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#99
I’ve done the same thing for discovering cheaper billing profile on many services, e.g. Netflix or whatnot. Never thought to document it.

Finding it is a bit easy, processing the payment sometimes is geo locked by an account in that region (google/android) or having a form of payment in that country. Japan usually is paypay or a credit card with the BIN issued in Japan. There are many local payment providers though that do allow a foreign credit card so in the an China example:

Download WeChat/alipay, add foreign credit card, Change region, ????, profit.

It does get easier and very inexpensive if you do have foreign residencies and you can really rework purchasing.

Spotify for example is not sticky, but they are aggressive on if they aren’t sure you’re region specific to lock you into a monthly plan before allowing you to switch to yearly.

~ There was also great arbitrage for a while on providers that allowed switching to turkey residency and allowing foreign credit card billing but this ended due to the currency instability and now most software sellers anchor it to another region. ~ Also you’d be surprised about the minimum requirements to open up financial accounts in foreign countries. Linepay is pretty much open, but kinda sucks (Japan, Taiwan and Thailand) and it seems the LINE developers are maximizing at destroying their app and audience while WeChat and Alipay are amazing for what they are in general.

Re: Chess.com regional pricing: A case study

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Worker co-ops are scorned here? I think they just don’t come up much due to the nature of the industry. Like all [citation needed] nerds I consumed a ridiculous amount of fantasy fiction growing up, and think programming is as close to magic as we’ll ever get in the real world. If somebody made a “Programmers Guild” in the style of a wizard’s guild, who among us wouldn’t join such a thing?

> If somebody made a “Programmers Guild” in the style of a wizard’s guild, who among us wouldn’t join such a thing? HN is the wizard's guild.

I sort of assumed there was a wizard message board, that’s why they spend so much time gazing into their crystal balls.
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