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Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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This looks really cool and like something I've been subconsciously looking for! A couple thoughts & ideas: - Given the sensitivity of the data, I would be rather scared to self-host this, unless it's a machine at home, behind a Wireguard/Tailscale setup. I would love to see this as an E2E-encrypted application, similarly to Ente.io. - Could index and storage backend be decoupled, so that I can host my photos etc. els…

Great comment, thanks for the questions. > unless it's a machine at home, This is, in fact, the intended model. The problem with any other model, AFAIK, is that someone else has access to your data unless I implement an encrypted live database, like with homomorphic encryption, but even then, I'm sure at some places it would have to be decrypted in memory in places (like, transcoding videos or encoding images, for st…

Thanks for your thoughtful response!

> I just don't think any other way of doing it is really feasible to truly preserve your privacy. I am likely wrong, but if so, I also imagine it's very tedious, nuanced, error-prone, and restrictive.

It's certainly not easy but I wouldn't go as far as saying it requires homomorphic encryption. Have you had a look at what the Ente.io people do? Even though everything is E2E-encrypted, they have (purely local) facial recognition, which to me sounds an order of magnitude harder (compute-intensive) than building a chronological index/timeline. But maybe I'm missing something here, which isn't unlikely, given that I'm not the person who just spent a decade building this very cool tool.

> It acts as a backup, and it ensures consistency, reliability, and availability.

Hmmm, according to you[0],

> Timelinize is an archival tool, not a backup utility. Please back up your timeline(s) with a proper backup tool.

;)

I get your point, though, especially when it comes to reliability & availability. Maybe the deduplication needs to happen at a different level, e.g. at the level of the file system (ZFS etc.) or at least at the level of backups (i.e. have restic/borgbackup deduplicate identical files in the backed-up data).

Then again, I can't say I have not had wet dreams once or twice of a future where apps & their persistent data simply refer to user files through their content hashes, instead of hard-coding paths & URLs. (Prime example: Why don't m3u playlist files use hashes to become resistant against file renamings? Every music player already indexes all music files, anyway. Sigh.)

> Especially since it's not just obvious what changes, it's encryption so it's kind of a black box.

Wouldn't you rather diff the data after decrypting the archive?

> Just to reiterate, one of the main goals of Timelinize is to have your data. It may mean some duplication, but I'm OK with that. Storage is getting cheap enough, and even if it's expensive, it's worth it.

I suspect it will lead to duplication of pretty much all user data (i.e. original storage requirements × 2), at least if you're serious about your timeline. However, I see your point, it might very well be a tradeoff that's worth it.

[0]: https://timelinize.com/docs/importing-data

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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This is great. I want this but for much more. I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I press. I want a record of everything I do in the digital world that is searc…

> I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. Sounds in-scope so far. Long-term, perhaps, and maybe optional add-on features rather than built-in, but we'll see. > I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I pr…

> That is possible in theory, but for me personally that's just too detailed. :D I wouldn't need all that granularity, myself.

I do see that. I think for that reason it would be cool to support a kind of extension system for arbitrary "collectors". And then solid filtering to filter data.

The vision is definitely similar. I am very pleasantly surprised to see your project. And I also like your ideas/roadmap on the website. I know you are building this for yourself/your family but I certainly would be open to contribute to it.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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As for branding, IMO you could go a bunch of directions: Timelines Tempor (temporal) Chronos Chronografik Continuum Momentum (moments, memory, momentum through time) IdioSync (kinda hate this one tbh) Who knows! Those are just the ones that fell out of my mouth while typing. It's just gotta have a memorable and easy-to-pronounce cadence. Even "Memorable" is a possibility LOL -suggestions from some dude, not ChatGPT

Scribe? As in the person who writes the timeline.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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This seems like the perfect thing to mix with financial records (ie bank feeds) and a local LLM.

I’m not sure what you’d use it for … exactly … but it could probably reconcile and figure out all your credit card charges based on your message history and location, allocate charges to budgets, and show more analytics than you’re probably interested in knowing.

People with a cloud connected car such as a Tesla could probably get some real “personal assistant” type use cases out of this, such as automatically sorting your personal and business travel kms, expenses and such for tax purposes.

There’s probably other use cases like suggesting local experiences you haven’t done before, and helping you with time management.

Re: Show HN: Timelinize – Privately organize your own data from everywhere, locally

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post #34

This is great. I want this but for much more. I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I press. I want a record of everything I do in the digital world that is searc…

> I want it to also be a nextcloud and zotero replacement, storing all my documents and books and documenting when I added, opened, edited them. I want it to store all notes that I write. Sounds in-scope so far. Long-term, perhaps, and maybe optional add-on features rather than built-in, but we'll see. > I want it to record and display all browser tabs I open, when I do so, everything I copy and paste, every key I pr…

I feel like nextcloud replacement is out of scope ?

I mostly felt like Timelize was about being *behind* data-generating applications and showing and cross-referencing their data when reading the website.

I think the way is to do some sort of nextcloud extension that puts data into Timeline.

I also saw it tracks "documents" on the website but I didn't try it yet, and I would hope it can use external document sources that are already processing documents like paperless for example (which I am already using and liking)

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