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Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by Macha »

apwell23 wrote: post #146
Macha wrote: post #126

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Do you have a lot of dedicated cycle ways? I'm not sure I'd want to have headphones impeding my hearing anywhere I'd have to interact with cars or pedestrians while on my bike.

yes i bike on chicago lakefront up and down is like 40 miles for me. also biking on roads you should never count on sounds to guide you. you should always use vision. for example, making a left you have to visually establish that driver coming straight has made eye contact with you or atleast looked at you. can you share a example of how you are using sound to help you ride bikes with other vehicles on the road? are…

The sound of a revving engine is often the first warning you have that someone is about to pass you and especially how they handle it is a good sign of how likely they are to attempt a close pass rather than overtake in the legal manner with the minimum distance.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by slashdev »

VirgilShelton wrote: post #141
y0eswddl wrote: post #136

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and soon/now triple as surveillance.

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Until the politicians want to come after you for posts you make on HN, or any other infraction they decide is now an issue.

History is littered with the literal bones of people who thought they had nothing to fear from the state. The state is not your friend, and is not looking out for you.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by chrisfosterelli »

apwell23 wrote: post #144
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #116

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Ironically now that computer vision is commonplace, the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years because the magnetic systems do not do a very good job of detecting cyclists and the cameras double as a congestion monitoring tool for city staff.

> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

Yes. I can't speak to the USA, as I'm from Canada, but I've had conversations with traffic engineers from another city about it and increasingly seen them in my own city. Here's an example of one of the systems: https://www.iteris.com/oursolutions/pedestrian-cyclist-safet...

They're obviously more common in higher density areas with better cycling infrastructure. The inductive loops are effectively useless with carbon fibre bicycles especially, so these have been a welcome change. But from what I was told these also are more effective for vehicle traffic than the induction loops as drivers often come to a stop too far back to be detected, plus these also allow conditional behaviour based on the number of vehicles waiting and their lanes (which can all be changed without ripping up the road).

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by serf »

ramoz wrote: post #18

This will never hit a production enterprise system without some form of hooks/callbacks in place to instill governance. Obviously much harder with UI vs agent events similar to the below. https://docs.claude.com/en/docs/claude-code/hooks https://google.github.io/adk-docs/callbacks/

>This will never hit a production enterprise system without some form of hooks/callbacks in place to instill governance.

knowing how many times Claude Code breezed through a hook call and threw it away after actually computing the hook for an answer and then proceeding to not integrate the hook results ; I think the concept of 'governance' is laughable.

LLMs are so much further from determinism/governance than people seem to realize.

I've even seen earlier CC breeze through a hook that ends with a halting test failure and "DO NOT PROCEED" verbage. The only hook that is guaranteed to work on call is a big theoretical dangerous claude-killing hook.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by itsmartapuntocm »

apwell23 wrote: post #144
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically now that computer vision is commonplace, the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years because the magnetic systems do not do a very good job of detecting cyclists and the cameras double as a congestion monitoring tool for city staff.

> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

They’re extremely common in the U.S. now.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by apwell23 »

itsmartapuntocm wrote: post #155
apwell23 wrote: post #144

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> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

They’re extremely common in the U.S. now.

any data to share ? i've never seen one in chicago. google tells me its <1%. maybe i am not using right keywords.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by typpilol »

odie5533 wrote: post #31
arkmm wrote: post #10

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What sorts of automations were you able to get working with the Chrome dev tools MCP?

Not OP, but in my experience, Jest and Playwright are so much faster that it's not worth doing much with the MCP. It's a neat toy, but it's just too slow for an LLM to try to control a browser using MCP calls.

You can use it for debugging with the llm though.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by drewbeck »

atonse wrote: post #69
odie5533 wrote: post #31

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Not OP, but in my experience, Jest and Playwright are so much faster that it's not worth doing much with the MCP. It's a neat toy, but it's just too slow for an LLM to try to control a browser using MCP calls.

Yeah I think it would be better to just have the model write out playwright scripts than the way it's doing it right now (or at least first navigate manually and then based on that, write a playwright typescript script for future tests). Cuz right now it's way too slow... perform an action, then read the results, then wait for the next tool call, etc.

> or at least first navigate manually and then based on that, write a playwright typescript script for future tests

This has always felt like a natural best use for LLMs - let them "figure something out" then write/configure a tool to do the same thing. Throwing the full might of an LLM every time you're trying to do something that could be scriptable is a massive waste of compute, not to mention the inconsistent LLM output.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Post by [deleted] »

chrisfosterelli wrote: post #153
apwell23 wrote: post #144

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> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

Yes. I can't speak to the USA, as I'm from Canada, but I've had conversations with traffic engineers from another city about it and increasingly seen them in my own city. Here's an example of one of the systems: https://www.iteris.com/oursolutions/pedestrian-cyclist-safet... They're obviously more common in higher density areas with better cycling infrastructure. The inductive loops are effectively useless with carbo…

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