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Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can legally do whatever they want. They've pulled apps before for the same rule. It's part of playing in Apple's ecosystem. As a developer you always take the risk that Apple will decide to wield the ban-hammer, and you basically have no recourse.

Just like Microsoft could legally do what they wanted on windows vis-a-vis Netscape and IE.

They couldn’t because they were a monopoly.

Apple is so far from being a monopoly, it’s not even funny.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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This map uproar seems a tad hyperbolic. I used it this morning and I was actually pleasantly surprised. My map experience wasn't worse as I expected, but actually much better with turn by turn. The people most upset seem to generally be edge cases. I'm sure Apple will work those out as complaints roll in. Google has had 7 years to perfect maps. Apple feels maybe a year behind in some respects and a year ahead in othe…

>The people most upset seem to generally be edge cases I love it how you dismiss 99% of people and the globe as an edge case by your anecdote of it working well for you. Let me take a guess, you live on the West Coast where Apple engineers live?

We're only talking about a demographic of ~5B people and 63 countries, don't be so hyperbolic: http://theunderstatement.com/post/31855177665/quantifying-th....

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

#33
Is it just me or has Apple "slavishly" copied the google maps app functionality, icons (that arrow looks like a copy paste) and rounded corners?

The hypocrisy here is just mind blowing.. And it clearly demonstrates the utter bullshitness that is there fight against Samsung

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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This map uproar seems a tad hyperbolic. I used it this morning and I was actually pleasantly surprised. My map experience wasn't worse as I expected, but actually much better with turn by turn. The people most upset seem to generally be edge cases. I'm sure Apple will work those out as complaints roll in. Google has had 7 years to perfect maps. Apple feels maybe a year behind in some respects and a year ahead in othe…

TIL the entire population of New York City is one gigantic edge case.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

#35
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can legally do whatever they want. They've pulled apps before for the same rule. It's part of playing in Apple's ecosystem. As a developer you always take the risk that Apple will decide to wield the ban-hammer, and you basically have no recourse.

Just like Microsoft could legally do what they wanted on windows vis-a-vis Netscape and IE.

Microsoft controlled 94% of the computers on earth. What percentage of smartphones does Apple control?

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

#36
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can legally do whatever they want. They've pulled apps before for the same rule. It's part of playing in Apple's ecosystem. As a developer you always take the risk that Apple will decide to wield the ban-hammer, and you basically have no recourse.

Just like Microsoft could legally do what they wanted on windows vis-a-vis Netscape and IE.

Microsoft was a monopoly, Apple is not.

Doesn't mean I like their policies, but the situations aren't comparable.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

#37

Ok, this is an interesting twist to the story. See my comments elsewhere on why I don't think an App version of Google Maps would see the light of day (if it did that would definitely count as 'plan C' in my book). Fun times.

Apple lost this particular battle ( mobile search ) the day Google bought Android. OSM is cool as we know, but it was not deployed until now, and the reaction is epic. Apple will fight the good fight like bing is doing in web search, but ultimately will be found wanting, just like bing. The only f-u play Apple has left is to spend billions of dollars making OSM on par with GoogleMaps, contributing that knowledge 'upstream,'watching specialized maps services eat google maps' ad lunch. I seriously doubt that would happen, but it's the only play left. "If I can't play then no one can..."

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Thank god. I'm holding off on upgrading to iOS 6 until this is released, so it will be very welcome. I live in a city, so accurate location data is important to me (and I prefer not to use the web based google maps because I don't want to give safari permission to use location data)!

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

I thought Gruber was getting more balanced. I guessed wrong.

Maps don't improve by themselves. They improve by complaints, feedback, input.

They also don't degrade by themselves. Unless Gruber et al are under some amazing assumption that Google now has no investment in Maps, is not getting street data, topographical data, traffic data any more.

Though, mind you, this assumption isn't far fetched. Much as some of these pundits live their life in the Apple ecosystem, they seem to be blissfully (or willfully) ignorant of the fact that "mobile Maps" is but one segment of Google Maps. Millions of people rely on it, daily, on their desktops.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #4

How does "competes with existing functionality" not wake up the antitrust regulators? Wasn't the entire IE shipping with Windows situation based on a competitive functionality?

First Apple would need to be considered a monopoly. They're clearly not a monopoly since there are so many smart phone alternatives available.

That's not true, you don't have to be a monopoly to get in trouble for anti-competitive behavior, you just have to be... participating in anti-competitive behavior.
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