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Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by ricardobeat »

malenm wrote: post #13

A little Googling finds the founders - Jason Sun [1] and Ben Yi [2] - both worked at KILLSPENCER [3] before starting Vinted Goods [4]. While it's true that both sites have a top nav, I couldn't find any pics of someone operating a sewing machine on either site. Either way, the products seem similar, but what would you expect from a mentor/protege relationship? [1] http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jason-sun/20/84a/124 [2]…

Sure the complaint won't stand, but they do have a similar general look, they could have avoided it completely by just going for a different style. Should be common sense if you are leaving one company to start another.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by rexreed »

aidenn0 wrote: post #45
rexreed wrote: post #36

I don't understand why a company with such a fan base doesn't just add a "Donate" widget to their page and directly solicit donations rather than go through Kickstarter and give up 5-10%? The power of Kickstarter is attracting fans you couldn't otherwise, but they take a nice big chunk. I always wonder why companies with a great story and fan base just don't solicit their fans directly instead of going through Kickst…

And how will they take payments?

Stripe? Paypal? Lots of options -- especially for a company that will be selling a physical product -- they'll need to figure it out sooner than later.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by drhodes »

jwuggles wrote: post #50

Kickstarter should rather simply put projects on 'hold' and have a dispute ticket of sorts similar to that of ebay for people to sort it out and figure it out. In the end of the day it has to be black and white however.. one or the other... the question now is who that side will be? The kickstarter raiser or an outside third party? It is a great shame to see such a project go down like this and I hope kickstarter is…

How long does a dispute take to resolve? Is it fair to funders if their money is held for 6 months while lawyers argue?

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by andreasvc »

erikb wrote: post #49

The headline is misleading. It's not really Kickstarters fault. If they get legal threats concerning one of the people using their site it's quite normal to take it down, at least until everything is settled.

Isn't that a 'guilty until proven innocent' mentality? This way, any random person who can pen down some legalese can take down a project. They should only respond to court issued judgments.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by alanctgardner2 »

anigbrowl wrote: post #41

Considering how many unemployed lawyers there are these days, I don't know why any startup wouldn't automatically bring in an attorney as part of the founding team; such a person may not be able to handle all the legal challenges a startup faces, but they'll be able to spot them coming and will know when and how to engage outside counsel. At least in the US, we live in a very legalistic and litigous society: law is n…

At least for engineers, part of your professional obligation is not to dilute the value of your services by offering them for free. The equation is obviously a bit different for lawyers, who may work pro bono (only in criminal cases, perhaps?). My point being, it is probably against their professional code to be on retainer for a price far below market value.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by alanctgardner2 »

erikb wrote: post #49

The headline is misleading. It's not really Kickstarters fault. If they get legal threats concerning one of the people using their site it's quite normal to take it down, at least until everything is settled.

It might be in their TOS, but they definitely aren't obligated to stop supporting these guys because of legal action. In fact, without a formal process in place they open themselves up to more risk by making judgement calls about whose funding to pull. I'd like to see these guys take Kickstarter to court, if only to get a better definition of KS' legal role and responsibilities

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by ryguytilidie »

anigbrowl wrote: post #41

Considering how many unemployed lawyers there are these days, I don't know why any startup wouldn't automatically bring in an attorney as part of the founding team; such a person may not be able to handle all the legal challenges a startup faces, but they'll be able to spot them coming and will know when and how to engage outside counsel. At least in the US, we live in a very legalistic and litigous society: law is n…

Because this would be incredibly expensive and the lawyer would end up doing nothing like 70% of the time.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by scoot »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #14
ThaddeusQuay2 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"So what happens if you decide to make a Kickstarter Movie about a couple of anthropomorphized robots who end up on a dessert planet only to discover one of the inhabitants is destined to overthrow a totalitarian dictator?" That depends. Does the plot involve one of the robots taking a bite out of the dessert planet?

lol, gotta love spelling correctors. Ya know I did see one where the princess had a couple of sticky buns on the side of her head. So its entirely possible :-) [1] http://www.flickr.com/photos/walkerspace/2828387761/

> gotta love spelling correctors

Even one that doesn't have "desert" in its dictionary?

Why can't the GP poster make an honest mistake, without others feeling the need to make excuses for them?

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by anigbrowl »

ryguytilidie wrote: post #57
anigbrowl wrote: post #41

Considering how many unemployed lawyers there are these days, I don't know why any startup wouldn't automatically bring in an attorney as part of the founding team; such a person may not be able to handle all the legal challenges a startup faces, but they'll be able to spot them coming and will know when and how to engage outside counsel. At least in the US, we live in a very legalistic and litigous society: law is n…

Because this would be incredibly expensive and the lawyer would end up doing nothing like 70% of the time.

Hiring an experienced lawyer away from a job as general counsel or from an established law firm would be incredibly expensive. Hiring a more junior one (or bringing a moderately experienced lawyer onto the board), not so much.

As for the workload, that's a bit like saying there's no point in having a CIO because all the computers work fine 95% of the time.

Re: Kickstarter suspends project 10 hours from successful funding

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Post by dwwoelfel »

If anyone is curious about what they raised, here's a graph I made:

http://canhekick.it/projects/446805249/vinted-bags-and-leath...

There's a competing site that has more information, but my graph is much nicer:

http://www.kicktraq.com/projects/446805249/vinted-bags-and-l...

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