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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Duplicates a native service Surly it can't be legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds?! and on that subject where is the talkative Google search update? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/building-search-engin...

They can legally do whatever they want. They've pulled apps before for the same rule. It's part of playing in Apple's ecosystem. As a developer you always take the risk that Apple will decide to wield the ban-hammer, and you basically have no recourse.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #7

Duplicates a native service Surly it can't be legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds?! and on that subject where is the talkative Google search update? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/building-search-engin...

> Surly it's not legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds? Of course it is. The only ways for it to be illegal would be 1. if it infringed on freedom of speech (no way that's going to hold) or 2. an antitrust action (which would require Apple to be a monopoly)

I don't believe Apple has any responsibility to provide freedom of speech within their closed ecosystem.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #11
post #7

Duplicates a native service Surly it can't be legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds?! and on that subject where is the talkative Google search update? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/building-search-engin...

They can legally do whatever they want. They've pulled apps before for the same rule. It's part of playing in Apple's ecosystem. As a developer you always take the risk that Apple will decide to wield the ban-hammer, and you basically have no recourse.

Just like Microsoft could legally do what they wanted on windows vis-a-vis Netscape and IE.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation:

>Using Maps to Improve Maps

>> Scott Rafer:

>>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months.

>The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there is to release what they have now and improve the data as millions of people start using it.

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/09/19/rafer-maps

If Google Maps is approved, far less people would be using Apple Maps.

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #7

Duplicates a native service Surly it can't be legal for Apple to potentially reject an app on such grounds?! and on that subject where is the talkative Google search update? http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/08/building-search-engin...

I'm not a lawyer, or even that educated, but I would be highly surprised if Apple couldn't do whatever they wanted with their own app store.

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Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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post #5

How does "competes with existing functionality" not wake up the antitrust regulators? Wasn't the entire IE shipping with Windows situation based on a competitive functionality?

Microsoft held a monopoly.

Yes, but Microsoft did not completely ban Netscape from running on Windows like Apple did with podcast apps, Google Voice etc. so the situation is not exactly analogous.

Everyone could and many did install Netscape, IE 3+ was just better after Netscape stagnated at version 4 for years because of a rewrite. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

Microsoft shipped their browser default since an OS without a browser did not make sense. The user was completely free to install any other competing browsers without needing to jailbreak the device.

If Microsoft actually stopped Netscape from running, could you imagine the backlash?

Re: Google has an iOS 6 Maps app awaiting approval

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Wonder how this jives with Gruber's comments on the maps situation: >Using Maps to Improve Maps >> Scott Rafer: >>What’s missing from this conversation is that map usage is critical. […] Google’s maps are going to start degrading. Apple’s will get better. They’ll meet in the middle within 18 months. >The idea is that you need to collect usage data to improve your data. The only way for Apple to get from here to there…

Maps don't magically improve through usage. Fix a POI here and there from user input is not going to cut it for competing with Google Maps.

For that, you need LIDARs on the road.

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