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User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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> However, as time has gone by, Bluesky’s traffic has declined (X’s has as well) and some of its users have become increasingly upset at its moderation decisions, including allowing U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance and anti-trans writer Jesse Singal to remain as users of the platform.

So the expectation is that the vice president of the United States should be banned because he says stuff people don't like? What's the benefit of ignoring reality like this? He's not going to magically disappear if Bluesky bans him - indeed he'll remain VP with all the power that entails.

This is worse than performative activism, it's like some kind of political denialism. You can't change reality by pretending it doesn't exist.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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Posting throwaway for obvious reasons.

You’ve heard this line of thought before, and forgive me for parroting but here it goes:

Bluesky attracts the same people X attracts, they just disagree on specifics which in most cases are surface level. The fanaticism and tribalism is basically the same. There is no utopia where a community is pleasant without a lot of guarding and gatekeeping and, really, viewpoint alignment and subject matter filtering. Some topics are basically there for shitflinging, and that’s mostly the topics that seem to be a hot poker for everyone.

No one gets banned for preferring Debian over Fedora.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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You can't be serious.

I don't use neither X nor bluesky, but I did get an X account for a while so I could check the links in random news or conversations, and half the posts had unrelated Nazi messages just below.

Not 'oh that's right wing so he's a Nazi' comments, I mean literal swastikas and kkk uniforms.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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> However, as time has gone by, Bluesky’s traffic has declined (X’s has as well) and some of its users have become increasingly upset at its moderation decisions, including allowing U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance and anti-trans writer Jesse Singal to remain as users of the platform. The problem, if you can call it that, is Singal hasn't broken any of their TOS or guidelines. Right now, AFAICT this is a people with pi…

> The problem, if you can call it that, is Singal hasn't broken any of their TOS.

Well, no, he did unambiguously break the TOS back when he originally joined. Then Bluesky amended their TOS, which gave them an avenue to avoid banning him.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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> However, as time has gone by, Bluesky’s traffic has declined (X’s has as well) and some of its users have become increasingly upset at its moderation decisions, including allowing U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance and anti-trans writer Jesse Singal to remain as users of the platform. The problem, if you can call it that, is Singal hasn't broken any of their TOS or guidelines. Right now, AFAICT this is a people with pi…

> The problem, if you can call it that, is Singal hasn't broken any of their TOS. Well, no, he did unambiguously break the TOS back when he originally joined. Then Bluesky amended their TOS, which gave them an avenue to avoid banning him.

> Well, no, he did clearly break the TOS back when he originally joined.

Care to explain? The links in the article re: potential violations are mostly BS.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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I hate to be the one to say it, but...this is why we can't have nice things.

At a certain scale, social media tilts humanity in one direction. We can't seem to escape the trajectory of our very nature; it will outcompete any complex system we devise to outwit it.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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I much prefer Bluesky to X but have had a hunch this was coming due to everything I've read about the practicality of running a Bluesky protocol service.

I still think there's room for something better technically. Mastodon seems more true to the decentralized ethos but I've never quite gotten used to the server dependency experience.

Nostr appeals to me technically but every time I'm on it seems swamped completely by discussion of cryptocurrency.

I guess to me it feels like one of these catch 22 (necessary but not sufficient?) problems where you have to have the right technical base for a platform, which seems doable, but even then you have to have the right userbase also.

Re: User ban controversy reveals Bluesky’s decentralized aspiration isn’t reality

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> However, as time has gone by, Bluesky’s traffic has declined (X’s has as well) and some of its users have become increasingly upset at its moderation decisions, including allowing U.S. Vice President J.D. Vance and anti-trans writer Jesse Singal to remain as users of the platform. So the expectation is that the vice president of the United States should be banned because he says stuff people don't like? What's the…

When speech is violence, allowing someone a platform is akin to being party to and supporting .
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