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Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by netsharc »

landl0rd wrote: post #26
toomuchtodo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The United States had a chance to lead, they tried to build domestically (Inflation Reduction Act), and it was sabotaged by governance choices. Someone else has demonstrated their ability to execute and deliver. Elections have consequences. Better luck next time.

Cool, I do, and I care more about her than about carbon because I and my people live here. So I will oppose any policy that cedes leadership or hegemony. See you at the ballot box, I guess.

So how's that going? Your unreliable leader is dissolving alliances left and right and tries to bully countries into submission. Faced with that, they'd rather deal with other assholes who are, although assholes, at least keep their promises. Leadership, hegemony, hah, how deluded do you want to get...

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by DangitBobby »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #21
simmerup wrote: post #18

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Considering America is literally promoting fossil fuels over renewables and the US administration is publicly saying climate change is a scam, I think America deserves more flack than China here

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Production rates are subject to change. China is showing it wants to move towards a future where it emits less CO2 and the US recently elected and appointed cronies to take us in the opposite direction.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by simmerup »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #21
simmerup wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering America is literally promoting fossil fuels over renewables and the US administration is publicly saying climate change is a scam, I think America deserves more flack than China here

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> In 2024, the U.S. emissions were on the rise, whereas the European Union (EU) was decreasing its emissions. The U.S. contributes about 13.5% of global annual emissions, whereas the EU's share has fallen to approximately 6%.

I don't even understand what you're tyring to say, America is taking climate change seriously in your eyes?

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by ahmeneeroe-v2 »

DangitBobby wrote: post #32
ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Production rates are subject to change. China is showing it wants to move towards a future where it emits less CO2 and the US recently elected and appointed cronies to take us in the opposite direction.

CO2 emissions by country: China vs US. Number only.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by mikestew »

sys32768 wrote: post #12
simmerup wrote: post #9

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I guess we can hope America starts taking climate change seriously again instead of chasing short term stock market returns

And China too with its ~30-31% of world CO2.

Can't have a discussion on climate change without the obligatory "But what about Chiiiiina!?"

It's time to own up to the fact that China is going out of their way to use renewables, and the U. S. is actively sabotaging renewable energy programs. Whining about China is starting to look pretty silly.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by kgwgk »

boston_clone wrote: post #19
kgwgk wrote: post #16

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> If you are so emotionally attached to solid water [...] That's an oddly personal remark to be making when global warming is a concern for humanity. That final sentence is not a positive note, either: "we're still experiencing above average ice melt - but this year wasn't as bad and some other years!".

I found that the message I replied to was an oddly personal remark and I couldn’t help it. Anyway, this year was better seems a positive note (to end a negative melody if you will).

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by jawilson2 »

codyb wrote: post #11
simmerup wrote: post #9

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I guess we can hope America starts taking climate change seriously again instead of chasing short term stock market returns

Stand up, fight back now... gotta save democracy first sadly. What a thorn in my side it has been to trade one existential crises for humanity for a government that seems actively opposed to doing a god damn thing about it

Same. It pops into my head a few times per week that I haven't thought about global climate change recently, and it is because we are dealing with the more immediate thread of hypercapitalism-authoritarian-christofascism, and my neighbors in Chicago are being disappeared nightly.

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by timeon »

kgwgk wrote: post #16
ncr100 wrote: post #6

I’m having a hard time contributing anything intellectually interesting. This is emotionally terrifying to me. What can be said?

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> The overall summer melt this year was therefore only 15 percent above the 2010-2020 average -- its lowest level in the past four years.

That is not really comforting. Is your comment satire?

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by username223 »

DangitBobby wrote: post #27
username223 wrote: post #24

I have believed for years that Americans would have a completely different attitude to global warming if the Lower 48 had more glaciers. In the Alps, you can easily walk to places where there are 100m of ladders to reach a hut that used to be at the level of the ice. In Canada, you can drive to places that used to be the toe of a glacier, then drive another half-mile to the parking lot, built at the edge of the glaci…

Plenty of Americans can see and feel the effects of global warming, they just don't think addressing it is worth the effort.

Do they? Wildfires are some percent more likely and larger, but forests have always burned, and there are other factors like a century of fire suppression. Hurricanes are more violent and frequent, but there have always been hurricanes. Eggheads will tell you those things, but your day-to-day experiences of them are easy to dismiss. Watching a glacier die is visceral:

https://maevethornberry.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Mer-de... https://drdirtbag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/athabasca36...

Re: Swiss glaciers have shrunk by a quarter since 2015, study says

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Post by DangitBobby »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #34
DangitBobby wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Production rates are subject to change. China is showing it wants to move towards a future where it emits less CO2 and the US recently elected and appointed cronies to take us in the opposite direction.

CO2 emissions by country: China vs US. Number only.

No idea, if you read my comment you'd understand that's not what I think matters.
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