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A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But at the end I didn't understand because he wrote "In the end, 3 days later I had been issued a replacement MacBook Pro which I got just as Mountain Lion released." So he went back right?

Right. He, like most of the tech world, is using a Mac on his desktop.

Proof of that?

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

#12
post #3

Ahem, on the desktop . And the switch was from OSX. I don't much care either way - I use OSX on my workstations and Ubuntu on my servers - but the title seems overhyped for such a simple article.

But at the end I didn't understand because he wrote "In the end, 3 days later I had been issued a replacement MacBook Pro which I got just as Mountain Lion released." So he went back right?

No. The laptop is irrelevant.

The article is about him realizing that his workstation shouldn't run a dead Solaris installation anymore, and more general that he doesn't need to replicate a server on his (workstation) desktop.

A broken laptop (running OS X, not that it is relevant for the meat of the article) just lead to the switch, which wasn't reverted for all we can tell.

Yeah, the laptop (with OS X, incidently) was replaced.

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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post #8
post #4

Even a Joyent tech admits Ubuntu is a more pleasant experience. Thought this was interesting, but all his points are not isolated to the desktop experience. Pretty much all the reasons he switched to linux affect the building and maintenance of servers too. I think it just boils down to community support.

I will read the article later, when I have more time, but many geeks that only know Linux and eventually BSD, have no idea how painful commercial UNIX systems can be. Several of our customers have HP-UX systems that look like plain System V systems straight out of the 70's.

The first task for the first real job I ever had was to get gcc 2.something running on an HP-UX 9 system. I still have nightmares.

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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post #8
post #4

Even a Joyent tech admits Ubuntu is a more pleasant experience. Thought this was interesting, but all his points are not isolated to the desktop experience. Pretty much all the reasons he switched to linux affect the building and maintenance of servers too. I think it just boils down to community support.

I will read the article later, when I have more time, but many geeks that only know Linux and eventually BSD, have no idea how painful commercial UNIX systems can be. Several of our customers have HP-UX systems that look like plain System V systems straight out of the 70's.

That was my first response to Linux when I was first trying it out. Back in the mid 1990s.

At the userland level especially, it didn't suck, and (with the GNU userland, windowmanagers, etc.), in fact, sucked radically less than stock commercial Unices I'd been using at the time (Sun, HP, AT&T, Data General, BSD).

The situation's only gotten much, much better.

I'll occasionally find myself in situations where I'm connecting to commercial Unix boxes (was a semi-recent shop where a fair number of staff still ran CDE desktops), and, really, it's painful. Doable, but painful.

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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post #2

Headline is a cheap clickbait.

You appear to assume that obtaining clicks from HN readers through subterfuge is the author's goal.

I don't think that's borne out by the content of that post or of other posts. It's more likely that he's just writing for his regular audience, for whom the title expresses exactly what's happened: he's changed the operating system on "the Workstation" to Linux.

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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post #8
post #4

Even a Joyent tech admits Ubuntu is a more pleasant experience. Thought this was interesting, but all his points are not isolated to the desktop experience. Pretty much all the reasons he switched to linux affect the building and maintenance of servers too. I think it just boils down to community support.

I will read the article later, when I have more time, but many geeks that only know Linux and eventually BSD, have no idea how painful commercial UNIX systems can be. Several of our customers have HP-UX systems that look like plain System V systems straight out of the 70's.

Sure HP/UX and friends always were terrible, but in 1995 I actually failed in love with Unix thanks to IRIX. IRIX really had a nice UI, easy to use management interfaces, powerful multimedia capabilities. Only installing anew it was bringing me back to the stone age (particularly the partitioning part, "inst" package manager was actually decent).

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

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I have installed Ubuntu Linux 4+ years ago, basically when its multimedia capabilities started to work in a fresh installation. I have never felt any necessity to come back to OS X/Windows since then.

Once Steam comes to Linux, I don't see many reasons why a lot of gamers won't switch over. Many of the people I who use Windows to develop in Python/Ruby/etc use either a VM or SSH into a Linux box, simply because they want to game. I think many people will not want to pay the Microsoft tax, especially for Windows 8.

Re: A Return to Linux on the Workstation

#20
After using Archlinux for a year I am back on Ubuntu 12.10. Ubuntu 12.10 is an absolute bliss. It is a complete hassle free desktop environment. If Ubuntu had support of hardware and software developers, it is definitely ready for some serious competition.

On the other hand, I am not so happy with Linux kernel which is being updated every 3 months yet it performs terribly when it comes to power management. There is a new power regression bug every few months.

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