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Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by itopaloglu83 »

phoehne wrote: post #55
chpatrick wrote: post #29

ESP stuff is so damn cheap and capable now I'm not sure what you would use Arduino for these days.

Don't look at just the specs. You also need to look at the board design and programming environment. I've used the ESP32 native tools and they are a lot more complex than Arduino. But I'm an embedded firmware developer, so it's kind of what I expect. But I used an Arduino, with 5V tolerant outputs, to light up Halloween costumes for years. I do it in 1 page of code that's I write in their IDE. I don't have to set up…

What do you think about the Arduino professional line? They have industrial PLC equipments and other high end boards etc.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by silvanocerza »

I heard the rumor quite some months ago but it was mostly speculation, altough it made sense after they acquired Edge Impulse.

I'm not sure whether to be happy or not to be fair. Main issues with Arduino while I was there was the leadership lack of vision and the unwillingness to support projects coming from the engineers. It was a company kinda coasting and unsure where to go.

If they replace leadership with people that have an clear vision and focus this might be good.

My greatest hope is that people with stocks don't get screwed over though, they used to distribute them quite "easily" at a certain point to avoid raising salaries.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by magtux »

This is a recipe for disaster. Arduino is great for education/tinkering. Qualcomm won't sell you anything even if you are ready to commit to buying 1000s. I tried to source some Qualcomm chips for a startup @ 10k qty and was told there would be no information or support. Qualcomm can have a much bigger market if they simply open up some product lines for distribution like MediaTek do.

China has a way more vibrant, innovative hardware industry simply because you can source everything made by Chinese firms.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by tedivm »

echoangle wrote: post #60
phoehne wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't look at just the specs. You also need to look at the board design and programming environment. I've used the ESP32 native tools and they are a lot more complex than Arduino. But I'm an embedded firmware developer, so it's kind of what I expect. But I used an Arduino, with 5V tolerant outputs, to light up Halloween costumes for years. I do it in 1 page of code that's I write in their IDE. I don't have to set up…

You can program the normal ESP32 Devboards with the Arduino IDE.

Yup- ESP32 is absolutely compatible with Arduino.

There's also great support for CircuitPython and MicroPython, which makes it trivial to program the devices.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by ferguess_k »

My first instinct to this piece of news is a five-char word starting with 'S'.

But reading through the news, it seems to be fine?

> Arduino will preserve its open approach and community spirit while unlocking a full‑stack platform for modern development—with Arduino UNO Q as the first step.

> The new Arduino UNO Q is a next-generation single board computer featuring a “dual brain” architecture—a Linux Debian-capable microprocessor and a real-time microcontroller—to bridge high-performance computing with real-time control.

Looks like they want to use the brand to push out their own stuffs, which seems to be reasonable. As long as they don't touch the education/OSS part I guess it will benefit both.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by [deleted] »

webdevver wrote: post #40
jsheard wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple's vertical integration is formidable but Google are still really struggling with their execution, their Tensor SOCs are consistently years behind Snapdragon in performance and efficiency even after their switch to TSMC this generation. Qualcomm is probably safe at the high end of the Android market for a while yet.

google is competing with a different offering. with a pixel you get google's ecosystem. apple is also not neccesarily top dog in performance (maybe they are - havne't checked lately), nobody buys an iphone because it ranks highly in benchmarks. thats some nerd nonsense that 0.1% of the audience seriously cares about. for google, pushing 3rd parties out of the supply chain gives them a ton of security and stability co…

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Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by webdevver »

healthymomo wrote: post #59
webdevver wrote: post #4

theyre going to push "AI on the edge" and "IoT" nonsense again absolutely unbelievably cooked. anyone pushing that nonsense, short with leverage. low latency connectivity + goliath data centres will always beat on-device inference/training.

tf are you on. just look at meta display glasses. it s all on board compute

its cool... but thats not gonna last long at all. soon theyre gonna put their own custom soc into it, just like google did.

especially for such a specific, space/power/thermal constrained platform. itd be weird if meta didnt put their own custom soc into it.

running a big tech company these days, theres enough custom work going around that basically all the big players have internal silicon teams. hell, even fintech shops with ~100 employees are doing tape-outs these days!

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by greatgib »

Just wait for a few years and then you can forget everything about open or open source about Arduino. And maybe in 2030, you will only be able to run the Arduino IDE on Windows with a specific driver to ensure that you only flash a firmware to a DRM controlled authentic Arduino device.

It is a nightmare when such an acquisition happen.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by BirAdam »

webdevver wrote: post #27
ivape wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cooked hardware companies get bought into it seems. Intel is the most egregious example, but AMD is being circled by OpenAI now for 10%. Companies like Marvell and even hard drive companies are up due to how they fit into the AI pipeline.

But intel being "cooked" was a massive psyop. how was intel ever "cooked", when they were still designing, taping out, and delivering massive quantities of CPUs to DCs and consumer products? AMD briefly gave them a run for their money, but it was nowhere near the catastrophe that bulldozer was, where the company basically needed rescuing. For a brief moment, they weren't a monopolist - that's all that happened, right…

Intel was in danger because they went from having massive amounts of cash on hand to losing billions per quarter with no roadmap to retake the market in the face of competition from both AMD and ARM. They also didn't have competitive GPUs, they lost the automotive market, they lost the networking market outside of desktop/laptop WiFi, and they'd lost any potential market in handhelds/embedded ages ago. Intel is a company that is massively capital intensive, and they simply cannot afford to be in that position. Looking at the need for billions in investment while burning billions per quarter and no good pathway to profitability, investors leave and the company is forced to make dramatic cuts which furthers the death spiral.

Re: Qualcomm to acquire Arduino

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Post by s1gsegv »

phoehne wrote: post #42
tylergetsay wrote: post #20

Espressif has been eating their lunch, the boards are way more capable and much cheaper. Why would anyone pick an Uno over an ESP32?

They're more fun. The programming is easier (although you can get an Arduino like experience on a ESP32). They have 5V options, which make some projects easier without having to add additional components. The ESP32 API (and the Pico for that matter) are better suited professional programmers. An Arduino is better if you're doing something and want a quick, easy, simple to program controller. It started as a way for a…

For what it’s worth, the original ESP32 is actually 5V tolerant, semi-officially acknowledged by Espressif. Good enough for hobby projects, anyway
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