Condescending, elitist BS. OMG, the public will form uninformed opinions, because they don't know what I know, this could be horrible. I do not understand the viewpoint. The public already has uninformed opinions about NFL players, coaches, etc. Big deal. Allow them to be more educated on the game, especially since the NFL would not exist without the public's interest.
NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
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Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#22This is very exciting, as there's a lot of strategy to American football that isn't plainly visible when the camera just follows the ball as it does on television. It's not going to showcase technique very well, but it'll go a long way towards explaining e.g. why some wide receivers are always open, why some players always seem to be in the right position to interrupt a pass, etc. I'd actually find it very interestin…
I'm interested in this as well, specially being able to see the Tampa 2 defense in action.
Same here. I hear the announcers throw around a bunch of different terms describing formations or strategies. Now, we will actually be able to see them in action as a whole.
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#23This is very exciting, as there's a lot of strategy to American football that isn't plainly visible when the camera just follows the ball as it does on television. It's not going to showcase technique very well, but it'll go a long way towards explaining e.g. why some wide receivers are always open, why some players always seem to be in the right position to interrupt a pass, etc. I'd actually find it very interestin…
> However, I'm not sure it's of wide interest to HN. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one here who likes NFL football. You'd probably be surprised. I know I was surprised when I got to college and found more football fans amongst my engineer friends than my humanities friends. It turns out the game is very complex and deep and discussing strategy can be quite interesting. I wasn't a football fan when I arrived in c…
I'm very happy to be mistaken. I was a casual fan in college, but the worm turned for me when I started hanging out with my brother in law who plays at Ball State. Hearing someone accurately predict what's going to happen before the ball is snapped, and then explain why (e.g. "they ran it up the gut because the linebacker had his weight back on his heels") really opened my eyes to the depth. If there's any HN football fans out here in Denver who'd like to get together one weekend to watch a game, I'd love to meet up!
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#24I'll be the first to admit I'm no aficionado but I can't see how more information is a bad thing. The OP feels as if the unwashed masses, once having access to this font of knowledge, will no doubt arrive at the wrong conclusions. To which I say: ya, well, so what?
If anything this will be a boon for the NFL by only encouraging more engagement with their fan base.
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#25And the first consequence of opening that Pandora's Box would be even more ammunition (not that any more is needed) for fans/writers/anyone with a passing interest in NFL to point out how awful the replacement refs are
refs: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8394351/the-nfl-official-m... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8393575/replacement-offici... http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8402489/nfl-replacement-of...
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#26Sweet. This is really gonna help my Madden game.
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#27What's weird about professional sports is that the major franchises seem to think they're doing what they do for their own sake instead of entertaining their customers.
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#28This is very exciting, as there's a lot of strategy to American football that isn't plainly visible when the camera just follows the ball as it does on television. It's not going to showcase technique very well, but it'll go a long way towards explaining e.g. why some wide receivers are always open, why some players always seem to be in the right position to interrupt a pass, etc. I'd actually find it very interestin…
However, I'm not sure it's of wide interest to HN. As far as I can tell, I'm the only one here who likes NFL football.
Nah, there's at least two of us.
#GODOLPHINS
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#29"And therein lies the problem with All-22 tape becoming available to the general public, particularly when it comes to passing plays. Someone will be open and many fans will assume that the quarterback did not make the right read or was locked onto another receiver. Yet in reality there is a progression on every pass play -- based on the coverage -- that a quarterback must rely on to determine who gets the ball. What…
"Hey guy posting on NFL.com, thanks for assuming the entire fanbase consists of complete idiots!"
That's Michael Lombardi. Perhaps you are not giving him enough credit as a former NFL executive? He is more than just "some guy".
"ESPN/NFL films has been feeding this to us for years using their access to All-22"
That is a partially correct statement. They would highlight specific plays and break them down for us (Ron Jaworski is great at this). However, for the first time the fans can get these raw tapes of footage and break it down themselves. With no help from the pros.
Easier said than done.
Re: NFL opens Pandora's Box by offering All-22 tape to public
#30What's weird about professional sports is that the major franchises seem to think they're doing what they do for their own sake instead of entertaining their customers.
That's no weirder than lawyers thinking they're doing what they do to win a case rather than to achieve justice. The NFL entertains customers by being a serious, competitive league, just as criminal justice is supposed to work via an adversarial system. (Before anyone else points it out, let's just say the NFL works FAR better than the criminal justice system....)