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Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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post #135

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Without those “fools” paying, you would have no content to pirate.

Anime will not disappear if CR implodes. It will still be funded by the Japanese market and other streamers. There will probably be fewer shows per season for a while, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

Anime existed before Crunchyroll and will continue to exist after Crunchyroll.

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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You're in luck then, as one of the reasons their subs are getting increasingly worse is exactly their growing reliance on AI.

No, it has gotten worse long before AI boom because of political activism from humans.

Extremists gotta extremize, right? They couldn't stop themselves from tainting their work with their beliefs, you cannot stop yourself from taking the few times this happened and magnifying it, as if it was predominant, and then reacting to it viscerally, even years down the line under no emotional pressure to do so.

And then even with all that additional capacity at hand, the proposed solution is replacing the rarely politically addled subs with mostly nonsensical AI generated rubbish, because that is such a reasonable alternative. Some people really deserve what's coming for them it seems. Just wish normal people didn't have to along for the ride.

What about AI being politically biased by the way? Or is that talking point already forgotten?

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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Hah, this is my time to shine. I worked in anime subtitling and timing for a number of years. I helped write our style guide — things like how to handle signs, overlapping dialogue, colors etc. It wound up being quite a large document! But the thing to realize here is that, all of these subs have to be placed by hand. There are AI tools that can help you match in and out times, but they have a difficult time matching…

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Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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This is really indicative of the people in charge at Crunchyroll not understanding their audience, as any serious anime fan can tell you that high quality subtitles have a huge effect on the enjoyability of an anime.

Colourful, expressive, well timed subs really add something to the experience.

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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post #192

> Since the most recent round of Crunchyroll layoffs What's the point of writing a full article when the answer is literally in the eighth word?

Maybe some people are still amazed to witness that machines still cannot create the same quality content that (passionate) human (teams) can create? Quality takes patience, time and money.

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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Hah, this is my time to shine. I worked in anime subtitling and timing for a number of years. I helped write our style guide — things like how to handle signs, overlapping dialogue, colors etc. It wound up being quite a large document! But the thing to realize here is that, all of these subs have to be placed by hand. There are AI tools that can help you match in and out times, but they have a difficult time matching…

> That’s why the best subs, are always fan subs! Because a business will never put in 8x more time on an episodes subtitles than “bare minimum.” Cannot overstate this enough. Fans are the ones who actually care. To an almost pathological degree. Anime fansubbing is a major reason why our video players even have excellent subtitling support to begin with. Many music fans will obssess over ripping quality and lossless…

I'm more than a Trekkie than a... Warrie (?), but does Project-4K77 means I can finally see Han shooting first?

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without those “fools” paying, you would have no content to pirate.

Anime will not disappear if CR implodes. It will still be funded by the Japanese market and other streamers. There will probably be fewer shows per season for a while, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

And sometimes it's more fun when there's no central source. Snarky chapter titles and leaving in a commercial for Morning Rescue when editing down the TV rip? Sure, why not.

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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post #107

Hah, this is my time to shine. I worked in anime subtitling and timing for a number of years. I helped write our style guide — things like how to handle signs, overlapping dialogue, colors etc. It wound up being quite a large document! But the thing to realize here is that, all of these subs have to be placed by hand. There are AI tools that can help you match in and out times, but they have a difficult time matching…

From what I remember TheFluff was arguably one of the best timers (and encoders) in the fansub scene in the past and he could time the dialogue in under 10 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00xX0PwGUg8 Karaoke and typesetting can of course take longer (I remember someone complaining about how much effort it was to typeset every single book name in some scene that had a bookshelf) though karaoke is usually ~3 m…

I'm frankly puzzled by this meme. Only Bakemonogatari is sensitive to timing, and not in a good way, the rest is a matter of habit and taste, so you can't improve it.

Re: Why did Crunchyroll's subtitles just get worse?

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post #135

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> Are they price sensitive enough that they won't go to a competitor that's a few dollars more expensive per month if it has better subtitles? They should probably consider that this competitor is actually mpv playing the DRM-free blu-ray quality fully subtitled mkv files obtained for a grand total of zero dollars from organized groups of people who simply care about anime to an absurd degree. "Paying customer" is a…

Without those “fools” paying, you would have no content to pirate.

Correlation is not causation and all that, but anime was better without Crunchyroll.
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