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Post by stpedgwdgfhgdd »

rco8786 wrote: post #243
darajava wrote: post #171

I don't understand, what could be built with this platform that wouldn't be made obsolete by conceivable updates to ChatGPT? Another commenter suggested a hotel search function: > Find me hotels in Capetown that have a pool by the beach .Should cost between 200 dollars to 800 dollars a night ChatGPT can already do this. Similarly, their own pizza lookup example seems like it would exist or nearly exist with current f…

There’s an incredibly long tail of profitable software business that would like to have a dynamic presence on ChatGPT that OpenAI would never have any interest in stealing. OpenAI wants to be the entry point to the internet, much like Google has been for the last couple decades.

+1

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Post by NewEntryHN »

cefboud wrote: post #17

This is an interesting branding exercise. Presenting MCP as 'Apps' makes it sound more accessible, while tools and MCP server sound very technical. Add a demo with Expedia and Spotify and you have an MCP that's end-user ready.

This is not just branding, MCP is an implementation detail; the product is chatting with apps.

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Post by NewEntryHN »

darajava wrote: post #171

I don't understand, what could be built with this platform that wouldn't be made obsolete by conceivable updates to ChatGPT? Another commenter suggested a hotel search function: > Find me hotels in Capetown that have a pool by the beach .Should cost between 200 dollars to 800 dollars a night ChatGPT can already do this. Similarly, their own pizza lookup example seems like it would exist or nearly exist with current f…

Why doing it themselves instead of distributing the work to data owners?

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Post by nicewood »

jwpapi wrote: post #289
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

It will just iframe whatever page/app you would have been browsing anyway but potentially with ChatGPT directly being able to operate on the App state. So if configured, I guess ChatGPT will be just a handy middle layer to your usual interfaces.

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Post by weregiraffe »

sothatsit wrote: post #301
jwpapi wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

Flexibility is the advantage. In a chat interface, you can type literally whatever you want and ChatGPT will do its best to serve you. In a website like Skyscanner, you are inherently limited by their UI design. If all you want is the cheapest flight on a specific day, Skyscanner is really great. But what if you need to book a bus at the other end of your flight? Skyscanner is not going to help you with that, but Cha…

>you can type literally whatever you want and ChatGPT

And ChatGPT will answer whatever it wants

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Post by penetrarthur »

ed wrote: post #238

A bit underwhelming when you see what's actually on offer. "Apps" are really just MCP servers, with an extension to allow returning HTML. A lot of the fundamental issues with MCP are still present: MCP is pretty single-player, users must "pull" content from the service, and the model of "enabling connections" is fairly unintuitive compared to "opening an app." Ideally apps would have a dedicated entry point, be able…

And Dropbox is just an FTP server with SVN.

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Post by ares623 »

nutanc wrote: post #288
wes-k wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I had a human assistant, I'd ask them to book my flight. The chat box is your window to your AI assistant. Maybe this new assistant hasn't earned your trust yet, but it makes sense that trust-aside, you'd ask your assistant to do whatever they could do for you.

Right. But my assistant wouldn't show me a new screen and ask me to do things in it :)

It’s an assistant to the assistant

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Post by asimovDev »

jampa wrote: post #90
siva7 wrote: post #58

This feels like a fever dream. As a developer everything changes every week. A new model, a new tool, a new sdk, paradigm we have to learn. I'm getting tired of all that shit.

As a JS developer for over 10 years who has seen multiple hype waves, here is my advice: You don't need to ride the first wave. You can wait until technology matures and see if it has staying power. For example, React and TypeScript were hard to set up initially. I deferred learning them for years until the tooling improved and they were clearly here to stay. Likewise, I'm glad I didn't dive into tech like LangChain…

when did that happen for you with React? 10 years ago was 2015 right around the time it started getting popular if I remember correctly (I wasn't a professional yet back then) so I am curious what was the point at which you decided the tooling improved. As a still junior dev I would love to know how to see determine things like that

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Post by kisamoto »

darkamaul wrote: post #304
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I don’t see why you wouldn’t book a flight using an AI assistant. No one’s saying it should do it completely unsupervised (maybe that’ll come much later), but having something that can research the best routes based on my criteria and show me several options — with a single click to purchase the one I find most convenient — is something I’d love. It could even work against the dynamic pricing algorithms airlines use…

I suppose you just have to trust that it's incentivized to find you the best route and not only offer you 3 options which it says are the best, but are actually paid promotions.
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