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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by sothatsit »

jwpapi wrote: post #289
ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

Flexibility is the advantage. In a chat interface, you can type literally whatever you want and ChatGPT will do its best to serve you. In a website like Skyscanner, you are inherently limited by their UI design.

If all you want is the cheapest flight on a specific day, Skyscanner is really great. But what if you need to book a bus at the other end of your flight? Skyscanner is not going to help you with that, but ChatGPT might! It could search up different bus providers in your destination and cross-reference them against the available flights.

How much you trust ChatGPT to actually do this well is up to you. But I suspect a lot of people will trust it, and I would probably be willing to use it for low-stakes tasks at least.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by beefnugs »

pu_pu wrote: post #278

This really feels like a missed opportunity to build something genuinely new, something that actually plays to the strengths of LLMs, instead of just embedding a fixed set of app screens inside chat. Ideally, users should be able to describe a task, and the AI would figure out which tools to use, wire them together, and show the result as an editable workflow or inline canvas the user can tweak. Frameworks like Llama…

Actually these giant companies have proven innovation is impossible. Any company that tries just gets stepped on by the bigger papa company stealing their idea and putting them out of business.

(Also read the documentation, they specifically mention that you can tell it to create new flow paths)

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by TheDong »

OccamsMirror wrote: post #293
tokioyoyo wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have very normie and not-so-normie friends that ask ChatGPT almost anything. My parents consistently make use of it, and they're almost 70, and not that tech-literate. There was a fun release from Anthropic about the type of queries that they're receiving, and code-gen is minority. I think we're, once again, not the average user.

I wonder how many of those “average users” will actually happily pay what the true cost is though? Are they really getting perceivable value for it or is it just more convenient than present day Google.

They all pay the price of google (micro-brainwashing by ads to buy things they don't need).

I think the average person will happily pay the same price to OpenAI (being micro-brainwashed by the AI to buy things they don't need, i.e. ads). I feel confident OpenAI will be able to charge even more for ads than Google since OpenAI will be able to influence people even more strongly, and hide the ads even better.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by darkamaul »

ukFxqnLa2sBSBf6 wrote: post #277
sert_121 wrote: post #246

It's interesting to see how chatgpt is becoming more and more of a starting point of the web exploration, at which they're like, why even bother searching at this point, we'll just have default workflows for maps, buy (integration of stripe already marks it), booking airlines etc, which covers so much basic stuff people would do anyways. The biggest bottleneck for this for the past two years imo wasn't the models, bu…

I’m not sure how many people there are like me outside of this website but there’s not a single bone in my body that wants to use AI for these things. Buying plane tickets for example. It’s not even that I don’t trust the AI or that I’m afraid it might make a mistake. I just inherently want to feel like I’m in control of these processes. It’s the same reason I’m more afraid of flying than driving despite flying being…

I don’t see why you wouldn’t book a flight using an AI assistant. No one’s saying it should do it completely unsupervised (maybe that’ll come much later), but having something that can research the best routes based on my criteria and show me several options — with a single click to purchase the one I find most convenient — is something I’d love.

It could even work against the dynamic pricing algorithms airlines use to maximize revenue: if I have a tireless assistant exploring every possible combination to find the cheapest ticket, it’ll probably do a much better job than I ever could.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by nsonha »

zmmmmm wrote: post #206
LudwigNagasena wrote: post #202

Glad to see no AGI hubris in this presentation, but we also haven’t see anything groundbreaking: their own version of GUI plugins, their own version of a workflow builder, and an aspiration to take cut of every transaction on the web. I hope their GUI integration will be eventually superseded by native UI integration. I remember such well thought out concepts dating back to 2018 ( https://uxdesign.cc/redesigning-siri…

AGI is so last year. Now it's all ASI which is great because it was achieved in like 1968 or something so nobody trying to achieve it can possibly fail

it's funny to see lay people and some CEOs AGI this AGI that in the past 5 years and actual tech people know that it's very irrelevant to what's happening right now.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by nsonha »

wiradikusuma wrote: post #43

In 2018, I founded a startup specializing in chatbot for events. At the time the platforms were Alexa Skills, Actions on Google, and Messenger Platform (and LINE Bot, for people in Asia). I guess what's old is new again, but with fancier tech. This time will be different?

Sure absolutely NO difference this time. Say it 100 times and maybe reality will change.

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by [deleted] »

sothatsit wrote: post #301
jwpapi wrote: post #289

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would argue a website made to buy you tickets (skyscanner f.e.) is always gonna be a better interface than chat. Right now I cant imagine an AI (esp. chat) being more convenient for me than skyscanner or Google Hotels, but maybe I’m missing the imagination.

Flexibility is the advantage. In a chat interface, you can type literally whatever you want and ChatGPT will do its best to serve you. In a website like Skyscanner, you are inherently limited by their UI design. If all you want is the cheapest flight on a specific day, Skyscanner is really great. But what if you need to book a bus at the other end of your flight? Skyscanner is not going to help you with that, but Cha…

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Re: Apps SDK

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Post by selvan »

Illniyar wrote: post #181

I can't understand the documentation. How are the interactive elements embedded in the chat? Are they just iFrames? The docs mention returning resources, and the example is returning a rust file as a resource, which is nonsensical. This seems similar to MCP UI in result but it's not clear how it works internally.

An MCP server exposes tools that a model can call during a conversation and returns results according to the tool contracts. Those results can include extra metadata—such as inline HTML—that the Apps SDK uses to render rich UI components (widgets) alongside assistant messages.

More: https://github.com/openai/openai-apps-sdk-examples?tab=readm...

Re: Apps SDK

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Post by stpedgwdgfhgdd »

darajava wrote: post #171

I don't understand, what could be built with this platform that wouldn't be made obsolete by conceivable updates to ChatGPT? Another commenter suggested a hotel search function: > Find me hotels in Capetown that have a pool by the beach .Should cost between 200 dollars to 800 dollars a night ChatGPT can already do this. Similarly, their own pizza lookup example seems like it would exist or nearly exist with current f…

ChatGPT’s generic search will not be that good compared to apps specialized in this.

I tried buying a special kind of lamp this weekend, all LLMs and google sucked at this. The conversation did not help in finding more fine grained results.

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