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Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by astafrig »

vpShane wrote: post #3

'We'll never require you to need an online account to log in to your system' Look how that changed. Windows Recall 'We'll never use this in any bad way whatsoever' Sure thing. Windows 10 goes EOL in 8 days, with the EU forcing Microsoft to give their customer bases security patches. Not anywhere else though, and not in the U.S. What was the end goal with that? Move everybody over to Windows 11; on their EOL page it l…

> I own this iPad, as in: it's mine. Why should I, and why would I want to put MY device's access and security on the whims of company?

Great question! You did configure it that way, so it might be worth asking yourself.

Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by torben-friis »

MaximilianEmel wrote: post #58

Search for "Local-only commands removal" on the page for the relevant section: Local-only commands removal: We are removing known mechanisms for creating a local account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE). While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured f…

>While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens

Poor people. Surely Microsoft is fixing this by giving them a proper local skip that doesn’t bypass the other critical setup?

Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by altairprime »

torben-friis wrote: post #82
MaximilianEmel wrote: post #58

Search for "Local-only commands removal" on the page for the relevant section: Local-only commands removal: We are removing known mechanisms for creating a local account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE). While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured f…

>While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens Poor people. Surely Microsoft is fixing this by giving them a proper local skip that doesn’t bypass the other critical setup?

Presumably the business/enterprise editions still do?

Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by hedora »

Simulacra wrote: post #77

I hate to say it, but the vast majority of users are going to just adapt and keep going. Probably north of 70% of computer users see these and just automatically accept, sign up, all of that. It's not that they don't care, they just don't understand.

Well, Windows desktop/laptop market share is down to 70.2%, so it’s possible you’re correct.

In other news, Linux is over 5 now.

Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by lanfeust6 »

MaximilianEmel wrote: post #58

Search for "Local-only commands removal" on the page for the relevant section: Local-only commands removal: We are removing known mechanisms for creating a local account in the Windows Setup experience (OOBE). While these mechanisms were often used to bypass Microsoft account setup, they also inadvertently skip critical setup screens, potentially causing users to exit OOBE with a device that is not fully configured f…

"critical"

Re: Microsoft is plugging more holes that let you use Windows 11 without MS account

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Post by pathartl »

ecshafer wrote: post #53
jazzyjackson wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're forgetting business critical software outside of office that's windows only or windows/macos. Stuff like Quickbooks, AutoCAD/Autodesk, off the top of my head

I've never worked at Autodesk, and I don't use CAD. But I see they have a Web version of AutoCAD. I assume there are a bunch of Autodesk employees on Hackernews who can correct me, and I know there's probably a boat load of issue for a huge legacy project like that. But how long until AutoCAD web is just AutoCAD? Or some competitor a'la Figma is in the web?

It will _never_ get to that point unless they port the original codebase to WASM or something. Or another product comes around that's so market upsetting that it takes the crown. The same can be said for Adobe products.
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