I think it’s just fantastic that the Ladybird browser is close to being usable. I was under the impression this was going to take many years before it became competitive.
Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
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Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Me as customer: having trouble using the likes of GitHub and Threads using the "OS sanctioned browser"
That's on nobody except Microsoft and Meta for testing against Chromium only.
It was a bug in WebKit that WebKit had to fix (and as you know, Safari takes a long time getting those fixes into consumer's hands).
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#33OT, but I really like the name Ladybird for a silly reason - it's the name of Hank Hill's dog. Whenever I hear it I think of her and smile. That's right, the thought of a cartoon dog makes me happy. I told you it was silly.
You seem to totally be overlooking who Hank was paying homage to with that name. Thanks to Ladybird, spring time in Texas provides a colorful palette of wildflowers, especially the bluebonnet, to travelers along the highways.
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Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of things may be scams, but it's hard to see how a reasonable level of quality control is.
What quality control? Are we talking about the same App Store where copyright infringement is blatantly on display? What a joke. I guess it doesn’t matter if its customers are equally as clueless.
Where does quality control to spec compliance come into play on copyright issues? Is part of the spec compliance to be free of copyright infringement? /s
Of course this is the infuriating type of response I'd expect to receive
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#35There is a big jump in the graph! I wonder what contributed to that big improvement.
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#36Me as engineer: it's wild a big corporation dictates a quality bar and limit API access for 3rd party software. Me as customer: oh man I'm sure glad stuff is reviewed to some quality bar and the OS limits API access.
Me as a consumer: - browsers having to go through Apple means slower updates (including for bugs or security), not needed on Mac or any other platform - Apple forces every alternative-engine browser to use a pretty broken framework that Safari does not use, not needed on Mac or any other platform - Apple's restrictions on alternative engines in the EU are a vast list of malicious compliance[0], making those engines a…
Those views are "you as a developer." Very few actual end users think about or care about any of these things.
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Definitely... IF they keep this up, they will be a real contender by the end of 2027. I keep saying I'd like to see a similar push for Servo though... since it's probably the next most feature-rich engine option. It really needs a corresponding browser project to go along side it though, since FF/Mozilla isn't that interested.
I believe this would be Verso: https://github.com/versotile-org/verso
That repo is a mirror of the GitLab version.
https://gitlab.com/verso-browser/verso/
Seemed to have fairly frequent commits but they abruptly spotted 3 months ago.
https://gitlab.com/verso-browser/verso/-/commits/main?ref_ty...
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to totally be overlooking who Hank was paying homage to with that name. Thanks to Ladybird, spring time in Texas provides a colorful palette of wildflowers, especially the bluebonnet, to travelers along the highways.
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Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#39Me as engineer: it's wild a big corporation dictates a quality bar and limit API access for 3rd party software. Me as customer: oh man I'm sure glad stuff is reviewed to some quality bar and the OS limits API access.
Me as engineer: does apple even pass the bar by their own? I hit shit tons of safari only bug that is 100% non web-compliment. Some are so stupid that as a normal person writing web pages must have ran into it already.
Re: Ladybird passes the Apple 90% threshold on web-platform-tests
#40Me as engineer: it's wild a big corporation dictates a quality bar and limit API access for 3rd party software. Me as customer: oh man I'm sure glad stuff is reviewed to some quality bar and the OS limits API access.
Me as a consumer: - browsers having to go through Apple means slower updates (including for bugs or security), not needed on Mac or any other platform - Apple forces every alternative-engine browser to use a pretty broken framework that Safari does not use, not needed on Mac or any other platform - Apple's restrictions on alternative engines in the EU are a vast list of malicious compliance[0], making those engines a…
Me as a consumer:
- Companies forking over more margin and control to Apple mean they have to make up for it in other ways.
- Apple and Google wielding so much control removes overall choice and competition from the market.
- I sure hope Apple and Google only ever have my interests at heart because they have all the keys to the kingdom and could really screw me over.
- I wish I could do XYZ with my phone. Too bad...
- I wish there were more diverse phone SKUs. It used to be wildly competitive and we used to have all kinds of innovation because it wasn't so winner-take-all. Where's my eink low power open source phone with gpio and thermal sensors, etc.
- My car and phone feel like frenemies.
- There's still no good alternative OS for phones. Probably because it'd be impossible to make money and compete against titans.
- The company that removed manifest V2 is now forcing app signing? I wonder if they'll limit web browsing options and ad blocking soon.
- Why do I have to de-Google my phone with every update? They have tyranny of defaults (that lay people can't adjust) and just reset the defaults back to themselves every time you upgrade. Or give you scare walls and alerts asking to be default again. Lay people are probably stuck with this.
- "Google News" legitimately has half page ads and popups and that's the default experience. It is physically impossible to even read the news.