Something like 60% of Iranians are under 30. This is Iran's way of limiting any easy communication and organization amongst a younger generation seeking change.
Iran designing its own version of the Internet
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Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#42>> "a plan to take key government agencies and military outfits offline and onto the new network by the end of September. "
If I'm not mistaken, the US govt has "offline" internets, as well as stripped down and monitored internets. Not for all the citizens of course, but naturally for the key govt agencies, no? Doesn't really seem like news to me.
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#43This is obviously not going to solve the problem of cyber attacks. As I remember, even the stuxnet attack on their nuclear reactor was ultimately caused by transmission through a pen drive into an isolated network. No reason, the same cannot be achieved even if they isolate the country's network. More entry points as I see it.
You are assuming that pen drives are still in use on their isolated networks. It matters such as these, it is very possible that the pen drive tactic works once, before measures are taken to prevent it again.
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#44The internet is (obviously) one of the best examples of the network effect. Sure you can technically wall of a subset of it and live on your own, but why would any sane person want to? I mean I get it, they want to limit access to non ideologically compatible ideas, which is most of everything. But then that severely limits the utility of their new internet. Right now the economy is coasting pretty heavily on oil exp…
They will be able to harness a lot of the network effects of the Internet. Contrary to the linkbait title, they are not building "their own version " of the Internet; they are building a separate special purpose network of networks, much like SIPRNet. As long as they don't mess with any of the protocols they will be able to take advantage of advances in COTS hardware and software. Furthermore they seem to be taking a…
Hi, I am the author of the report and I wanted to clarify the technical detail that you get at. In fact there are two networks, a SIPRNet for the IRGC/MOI and the one that I cover. While I am still drafting my technical paper for arxiv, perhaps the abstract might clarify part of the argument.
"While foreign funding agencies have provided substantial support for the developers and vendors of services that facilitate the unfettered flow of information and opportunities for freedom of expression through the Internet, little consolidated knowledge exists on the basic communications network infrastructure of the Islamic Republic of Iran. In the absence open access and public data, rumors and fear have reigned supreme. During provisional research on the censorship regime of the government, we found initial indicators that telecommunications entities in Iran have leveraged private address spaces to build a mature information network only reachable within the country. Despite the clear political implications of the claim we put forward, particularly in light of rampant speculation regarding the mandate of Article 46 of the Fifth Five Year Development Plan to establish a ``national information network,'' we hestitate to engage in speculation regarding the purpose of this structure. Rather, in order to solicit critical feedback for future research, we outline our initial findings and attempt to demonstrate that the matter under contention is a nation-wide phenomenom that warrants broader attention."
So essentially, my argument is that the widescale routing of 10/8 subnets across domestic networks, coupled with domains pointed to these addresses, warrants serious attention.
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#45How much of this is them "isolating" themselves and how much is it simply in response to the fact that they're cut off from doing commerce with much of the U.S. (and other countries?) due to trade sanctions, etc? serious question I would like to know the answer to
Every morning I wake up to dozens of articles in my Google Reader from Fars News, Mehr and IRIB that assure me that Iran's international trade is doing just fine without the West. Surely state media wouldn't lie...
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#46Is it just me, or wouldn't it be fairly trivial for a troublesome country to just point a satellite at Iran and give citizens access that way?
It's pretty trivial to block a satellite.
Which is why they do, it's also very trivial to hunt down those privileged people with BGAN dishes deployed.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I fear I was misunderstood. What made me laugh was the thought that the internet is a sort of wild west of ideologies and Iran, from what little I know, is a very tightly controlled ideological context. I did not even read the article. It's just the title that struck me as paradoxical. "Internet" == uncontrollable, Iran == tight control, "Internet" + Iran == WTF? Hope that makes sense. I realise internet here probabl…
I know a fair bit about this. It's only there to restrict people's access to uncensored information. Cyberattack etc is just an excuse to make people think it's something for their own good. Since they can tightly control it and it is a national network, they will offer very fast speeds with attractive prices, the actual internet is terribly expensive and incredibly slow, then they'll slowly expand from there, simila…
> Banks and all government organisations are soon going to require people to use a 'national email'. If your emails is @gmail.com they'll simply refuse it and will ask you to open an account on this new email site.
True, that was a policy statement from Taghipour, however my impression is that the resistance from the banking industry and Majles led to the mandate being scrapped. However, the overall point that Iran has a civil society around the Internet is valid and the reason I am pushing out the paper quickly.
Here is a link on banking: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&...
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
They will be able to harness a lot of the network effects of the Internet. Contrary to the linkbait title, they are not building "their own version " of the Internet; they are building a separate special purpose network of networks, much like SIPRNet. As long as they don't mess with any of the protocols they will be able to take advantage of advances in COTS hardware and software. Furthermore they seem to be taking a…
Hi, I am the author of the report and I wanted to clarify the technical detail that you get at. In fact there are two networks, a SIPRNet for the IRGC/MOI and the one that I cover. While I am still drafting my technical paper for arxiv, perhaps the abstract might clarify part of the argument. "While foreign funding agencies have provided substantial support for the developers and vendors of services that facilitate t…
Can I contact you off-HN? I will put my email in my profile...
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, I am the author of the report and I wanted to clarify the technical detail that you get at. In fact there are two networks, a SIPRNet for the IRGC/MOI and the one that I cover. While I am still drafting my technical paper for arxiv, perhaps the abstract might clarify part of the argument. "While foreign funding agencies have provided substantial support for the developers and vendors of services that facilitate t…
Can I contact you off-HN? I will put my email in my profile...
Sure, and others are certainly welcome to ping me collin@averysmallbird.com or @CDA.
Re: Iran designing its own version of the Internet
#50The modern Berlin wall.
fire*wall