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Re: Gem.coop

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Post by mosselman »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #5
splittydev wrote: post #3

Is there any context on why? Is there some controversy regarding RubyGems.org I'm not aware of?

As I understood it, to secure (their words) the supply chain, they took ownership of the code and repo (which others disputed as being owned by them) and kicked out users from Github. It is said the underlying cause is that devs push rv which is threatening RubyGems.

How is rv threatening rubygems? I am pretty excited about rv on first glance, I tried it and it was too beta when I did to work nicely, but definitely good to have a uv type tool for ruby.

Re: Gem.coop

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Post by KingOfCoders »

mosselman wrote: post #11
KingOfCoders wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I understood it, to secure (their words) the supply chain, they took ownership of the code and repo (which others disputed as being owned by them) and kicked out users from Github. It is said the underlying cause is that devs push rv which is threatening RubyGems.

How is rv threatening rubygems? I am pretty excited about rv on first glance, I tried it and it was too beta when I did to work nicely, but definitely good to have a uv type tool for ruby.

"Yes, I agree. And some of the “admins” even announced publicly many days ago they were launching a competitor tool and were funding raising for it. I’d not trust the system to such “admin”."

https://bsky.app/profile/rmfranca.bsky.social/post/3lz7alpob...

See https://spinel.coop/

"Spinel develops rv, the next-generation Ruby version manager"

Re: Gem.coop

#13

Post by dustedcodes »

wallmountedtv wrote: post #6
splittydev wrote: post #3

Is there any context on why? Is there some controversy regarding RubyGems.org I'm not aware of?

In short, a hostile takeover forced by Shopify through Ruby Central. It was sparked after Ruby Central chose to platform an extremist figure prominently for their last RailsConf against the wishes of the sponsors, losing them a lot of sponsorship money, as well as community support. https://joel.drapper.me/p/rubygems-takeover/

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Re: Gem.coop

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Post by dustedcodes »

IshKebab wrote: post #10
JimDabell wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It was sparked after Ruby Central chose to platform an extremist figure prominently for their last RailsConf This is so incredibly one-sided that it misleads more than it informs. The person they are talking about is DHH. Inviting the creator of Rails to speak at RailsConf – a conference for Rails – is not the outlandish behaviour this comment makes it sound like.

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Re: Gem.coop

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Post by byroot »

wallmountedtv wrote: post #6
splittydev wrote: post #3

Is there any context on why? Is there some controversy regarding RubyGems.org I'm not aware of?

In short, a hostile takeover forced by Shopify through Ruby Central. It was sparked after Ruby Central chose to platform an extremist figure prominently for their last RailsConf against the wishes of the sponsors, losing them a lot of sponsorship money, as well as community support. https://joel.drapper.me/p/rubygems-takeover/

> a hostile takeover forced by Shopify through Ruby Central.

That's entirely unsubstantiated.

Re: Gem.coop

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Post by jmcgough »

IshKebab wrote: post #10
JimDabell wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It was sparked after Ruby Central chose to platform an extremist figure prominently for their last RailsConf This is so incredibly one-sided that it misleads more than it informs. The person they are talking about is DHH. Inviting the creator of Rails to speak at RailsConf – a conference for Rails – is not the outlandish behaviour this comment makes it sound like.

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NYC has roughly the same stats - 40% of the residents there are foreign-born. This is more to do with low birth rates by natives, so population growth in NYC and London is entirely driven by immigration. The biggest problem is that it's too expensive for most people to have and raise kids in major cities.

What was more troubling to me was that he called the Tommy Robinson rallies "heartwarming". TR was a member of an explicitly fascist, white nationalist party. The rallies were full of signs calling for death to Muslims. Or, in the same blog post, his disproven claims of migrant gang r*pes. On top of that, he has written some really vile things about transgender people.

I would like to go to a tech conference and focus on Ruby, not politics. I'd like to leave my identity home and discuss software engineering and interesting technical ideas. DHH has made that impossible.

Re: Gem.coop

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Post by rossriley »

IshKebab wrote: post #10
JimDabell wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It was sparked after Ruby Central chose to platform an extremist figure prominently for their last RailsConf This is so incredibly one-sided that it misleads more than it informs. The person they are talking about is DHH. Inviting the creator of Rails to speak at RailsConf – a conference for Rails – is not the outlandish behaviour this comment makes it sound like.

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The population of London at the last census was still 60% British born. The difference between 2000 is that the figure was 60% white British.

He's not saying London doesn't have enough British people, he's saying it doesn't have enough white people in it.

That and saying it was heartwarming to see a Tommy Robinson march who represents the most extreme fringe of British right wing politics.

Re: Gem.coop

#18

Post by lemper »

bloudermilk wrote: post #2

It’s amazing to see the open source community step up like this. Kudos and gratitude to everyone that made this happen!

yeah, but still, the maintainers need to be paid for their time and expertise. not to mention, although bandwidth and storage is cheap, somebody still have to foot the bill. i suggest people donate to this project.

Re: Gem.coop

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Post by phplovesong »

splittydev wrote: post #19
pil0u wrote: post #7

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This article was the most nuanced I found while everything was still hot. https://archive.ph/SEzoV

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Afaik rubygems kicked some long term contributors and stole the entire project. Thats some serious red flags for me. At what point rubyruby gems does something nasty is only a matter of time. They could start to gatekeep or even worse add some sort of paid version.

Anyway.. a core piece of infra like this needs to be open for anyone and not closed for some shady entrerprize.

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