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Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by mikepurvis »

dmarinus wrote: post #19
aborsy wrote: post #11

I use magic wormhole when I first install a computer to send an SSH key. At that point, I have ssh. Also if you use a mesh VPN, your devices are already connected and there are several ways to transfer files. I like to use it more. What is your use case for this? BTW, I haven’t found a good iOS app.

I think you should create a new ssh key for every computer so you only have to share the public key .

If you’re launching machines from a prebaked image or template, it may not be possible to inject/generate something unique for each one, or doing so is finicky to the point that using something like wormhole may be simpler than fighting with your provisioning tool.

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by hshdhdhehd »

klysm wrote: post #10

I use this all the time when trying to get files between devices that need multiple hops to get to. Way easier then remembering what scp or rsync combo I need to jump through a host

Hmm how does this negotiate the hops or does it assume internet access? E.g. what if the last hop is inside a VPC.

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by rented_mule »

nine_k wrote: post #4

A simple encrypted channel for file transfer. A great way to send a file to a stranger who is near you but shares nothing with you, e.g. at a conference. /* A modern version should, of course, work in a browser, so that there'd be no Python packages to install. But the browser security model does not allow listening, so a signaling server would be needed to create a WebRTC connection. It could run on one of the devic…

> A modern version should, of course, work in a browser, so that there'd be no Python packages to install

Now, only uv needs to be installed (two self-contained binaries). Then you can do `uvx magic-wormhole --help` and it will quickly create a transient environment with the required packages. You don't even need to install Python (uv will do a transient install of Python as well).

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by Uehreka »

I’ve used this and localsend, both are great, but has anyone finally solved the problem of making one of these things that can use a GUI (for phones and tablets) and also a CLI (for when I’m SSHed into my home computer and need to send a video to get processed by something)?

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by shellfishgene »

FireInsight wrote: post #13

I prefer https://localsend.org/ nowadays. Nice cross-platform GUI, "just works". Requires being on the same lan, but discovery of other devices is automatic and there are no alphanumeric codes that have to be shared. It's a good QoL improvement to have "airdrop" between Android and Linux

The main reason one would use Magic Wormhole is that the devices do not need to be on the same LAN...

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by prmoustache »

mikae1 wrote: post #23

croc[1] has worked better for me. It supports resuming transfers, which is a must. It is very wormhole like and written in Go. [1] https://github.com/schollz/croc

coc is also available on android which maked it really useful. Although kde connect works very well at least for smallish files, it requires pairing devices you might not want to pair permanently.

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by keroro »

FireInsight wrote: post #13

I prefer https://localsend.org/ nowadays. Nice cross-platform GUI, "just works". Requires being on the same lan, but discovery of other devices is automatic and there are no alphanumeric codes that have to be shared. It's a good QoL improvement to have "airdrop" between Android and Linux

I've had better luck with https://drop.lol/ - it allows local discovery but can also share a link (drop.lol/XXXXX) to invite a device to the "network". There have been a number of times/networks local peer discovery doesn't work for me, but maybe that's because I haven't installed the localsend app.

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by irrational »

brendyn wrote: post #14

This project made me learn about and attempt to implement the SPAKE2 protocol and HKDF as an exercise. It's quite fascinating. It lets you upgrade a short password to a long key, but requires trusting a server to rate limit attempts on brute-forcing that short password. It seems difficult to find a practical use case for it tho. Because it's only relevant when it is impractical to send a long key. But if you think fo…

Maybe if your camera is broken? Or you are using one of those phones built without a camera (like the ones issued to people who work at secure government sites)?

Re: Magic Wormhole: Get things from one computer to another, safely

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Post by vlasky »

Uehreka wrote: post #25

I’ve used this and localsend, both are great, but has anyone finally solved the problem of making one of these things that can use a GUI (for phones and tablets) and also a CLI (for when I’m SSHed into my home computer and need to send a video to get processed by something)?

Wormhole William is available for Android devices:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.sanford.wor...

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