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Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by freehunter »

ars wrote: post #11

Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

Also: he's been using it for all of two days. That's still the honeymoon period; anything seems amazing for a couple of days/weeks before you start to come back to reality. If he was writing this post a year later I would give him more credit than if he was writing this post two days later.

I loved hosting my website through GoDaddy for two days as well.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by Tmmrn »

expralitemonk wrote: post #73

I go to a coffee shop often and among other things, I notice people's machines and how they interact with them. Two observations: 1. People with non-Mac machines always plug their laptop into AC power before starting work (unless it's a netbook). My previous Windows laptop had battery life of about 2 hours while my Macbook Pro has about 5 hours. 2. People with non-Mac machines have to be very careful where they sit,…

1. My notebook has short battery life because it wasn much less important than price for me when I chose it. 2. My notebook has a glossy screen because I didn't find one with a matte screen With every update my Archlinux system is approximately around the same difficult to use. I wouldn't care if I used it on Apple hardware or not but it's just more expensive.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by rsl7 »

AncientPC wrote: post #138
gpapilion wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, specifically: 1. 4 hours depending on workload(sort of an air form factor with a core-i7). 2. Yes, all supported, and still using my apple magic mouse. Used Skype, Vidyo, and Google Hangouts. 3. Can't say for sure, no reboots so far, wakes just fine. 4. Using an external monitor at work with my apple display port -> dvi adapter, so pretty much worked no problem. I was worried about the display being lower res tha…

Just to add another data point, Arch Linux on X220: 1. 4-6 hrs with 6 cell battery. 2. Yes, Intel everything (HD4000, wireless, etc). 3. Yes, 1 resume crash total this year. 4. Yes, attached to external monitor via DisplayPort -> DVI right now. 5. Never tested. 6. Small, crappy. I'm one of those guys who disables the touch pad in favor of TrackPoint though. 7. Much better IMO, not a fan of chiclet style and Apple's "…

The problem is that these are exactly the kinds of replies given by Linux advocates throughout the years. I've used unix varieties for more than 20 years and never experiences like this for anything, ever. Nothing is totally supported, or works right away. Ever. At least not in the way a Mac user would employ those descriptions.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by andyzweb »

dchichkov wrote: post #70
wisty wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Linux on a VM, running under OSX. OSX is ... finicky ... with dev tools. Apple does the compilers, and the bolt-on distributions (brew, Macports, fink) seem to have trouble keeping things compatible. Linux distributions don't end up falling behing their own compilers every time the compiler gets updated. I'd rather stay off the bleeding edge compilers, and have everything just work. There is the "Apple tax", bu…

I can really recommend having an i7/64Gb desktop with native Linux OS as your primary development environment. It is like 20x faster than a Macbook Pro/8Gb with Linux VM. And you could keep your Macbook Air for looks [and ssh to that box] ;)

this is what I do now at work. It has totally changed the way I do development. Instead of having a "build farm" or separate box to run continual tests on it's all in the same machine. SSHFS makes a world of difference too.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by mironathetin »

Is my impression right: Apple stops to be cool!

Now that Apple becomes vastly popular with everybody, hackers, early adopters and other trendsetters start bashing Apple and look for different stuff. The parent post is only one in a growing number of others.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by jcastro »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #102
X-Istence wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Ubuntu by far better than OS X for dev work?

There are lots of little answers to that question. For instance brew is a third party addition to OS X whereas its equivalents in Linux-land are integrated into the main OS. Brew does a surprisingly good job, but it still has to work around the fact that the main OS wasn't installed with brew. But there are two big meta-reasons: The first one is that since much of Open Source in general is done to "scratch ones on it…

> Your deployment platform is going to be very similar to your development platform.

I'm glad you mentioned this because Sputnik is very awesome for this. They included our new service orchestration tool [Juju](https://juju.ubuntu.com/) (along with a bunch of other useful stuff) on it to do just exactly what you're talking about.

This lets you deploy your application locally on the laptop using LXC containers, assuming you're set up with an environment called "local" and your AWS account called "amazon", hack on your local app, let's say it's node.js, when you're ready to test:

    juju deploy -elocal node-app whatever-yourapp
    juju deploy -elocal mongodb
    juju add-relation -elocal mongodb myapp
Then just `juju status` gives you a listing of your environment. What happens on Sputnik is you've deployed three [LXC containers](http://lxc.sourceforge.net/), one for orchestration, one for your node app, and one for mongodb with Ubuntu server just like they would deploy on EC2. Then you iterate a few times, commit, deploy, test. After you've done this for a while, now you're ready to deploy in EC2:

    juju deploy -eamazon node-app whatever-yourapp
    juju deploy -eamazon mongodb
    juju add-relation -eamazon mongodb myapp
    juju expose -eamazon whatever-yourapp
Then `juju status`, snag the public URL for your AWS instance, paste it into your browser, and you're deployed.

The nice thing there is you're doing all your app development locally on sputnik in containers that are pure Ubuntu Server, just like you'd get on AWS or HP Cloud, except now you're not running up a bill testing every little thing, you can replicate those kinds of deployments locally, which is nice when you're on a plane.

Sorry to sound like a commercial but Dell lent me a Sputnik to show this off at OSCON and it's really really nice to be able to just fire up deployments locally on a fast SSD and then push willy-nilly to the cloud, all right out of the box.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by rlt3 »

gbog wrote: post #92
ars wrote: post #11

Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

I, for one, find it refreshing to see a community of hackers (HN) going back to its roots and upvoting the struggles of a major anti-hacker corporation (Apple). Because, sorry, but Apple's spirit is in direct opposition with the natural grain of hackers, even in a broad and "entrepreneurial" sense of the word.

Why do you think Apple is anti-hacker?

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by buster »

The Dell XPS 13 certainly looks nice. And Linux, woohoo! But after using 13" for the last year, 16" for 2 years and 15" for another 3 years, i think 13" is too small for me.

Does someone know if there will be such a slick Laptop with 15 or 16"? Preferably FullHD display?

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by Symmetry »

ricardobeat wrote: post #69
anonymouz wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For Thinkpads what you list under 2) will usually work without hiccups. Generally, Intel is very good with its driver support, so try to pick a laptop with Intel WiFi & GPU. Depending on your needs you may want an nVidia or ATI GPU though. Can't say anything on multitouch with the Touchpad, since I don't use it.

Keywords: usually, generally, depending, can't say.

That's what prior research is for: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
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