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Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish?

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Re: Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish?

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In some ways Amazon's entshittification is others' gain. For example, Amazon used to be a place you could easily buy and download music files legally. But they entshittified their music product to the point where it was impossible to use. Others stepped in selling lossless format downloads with a good buyer experience and made nice businesses out of them. The same will happen in all other areas previously dominated b…

Can you recommend one?

I like qobuz.com.

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> Germany has a bunch of alternative online shops that are better. Such as? I never ran into such problems with Amazon, but I would like to know the alternatives.

Idealo for larger selection and comparison

FYI Idealo is part of Springer (Bild), Geizhals belongs to Heise (c't, iX)

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The point Amazon went downhill, and like all online stores, is when they started letting third party sellers sell through the platform.

It's now a black market where shady companies are trading on the good name of Amazon and selling the same products at lower products but usually from the grey market.

The only one where I have seen it improve a store (in the UK) is Next where they allow other trusted fashion brands to sell through the store.

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Despite trying to instill a customer-centric culture, as soon as Bezos let his foot off the gas, his company just isn't as customer obsessed. Or, they changed their definition of customer from the buyer to the seller. I dramatically lowered my buying from Amazon about 8 years ago, when I noticed that listings had reviews on items that were completely different than what was being listed. Apparently, sellers sell a kn…

Another mind boggling aspect of Amazon’s review system is that it categorises multiple products / variations under one. So if you want to buy products X with variations X1, X2 and X3- the review page for product X1 will also show X2, X3 ratings bundled together. You don’t quite know the rating of X1 individually. You can filter reviews out by the overall rating is the aggregated view. I can’t believe how this is help…

I was trying to buy a copy of the Iliad and found that they combined the reviews of EVERY TRANSLATION AND EVERY EDITION - I found people talking about 30+ versions on the same listing!

Reviews for Fagles's Iliad were combined with Pope's Iliad and Lattimore's Iliad and so on and so forth.

Navigation is also borked for books with many different versions - if you play around with the 'hardback', 'paperback', 'audiobook' buttons at the top of the page you'll find there's no consistency about what edition they lead you to.

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This summer it took Amazon 74 days to deliver a book. Not even a new book.

A book sold and fulfilled by Amazon.

Amazon's online system kept pushing back the delivery date one week at a time, so it couldn't be canceled either online or by the phone drones.

After the second delay I just went to a local bookstore and bought it right there.

When the book from Amazon finally arrived, I took it straight to Whole Foods for a refund.

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I’ve been buying from Amazon since they begin. I went through the pain of it being new company [missed shipments, wrong product, colors and a multitude of other headaches] back then they extended your membership or something like that. Now you are you are a take it or leave it sucker. Customers who have stuck around you 30 or 20 years should get some kind of discount on their membership fee. I have been slowly going to Walmart and Sam’s Club for a lot they’re slowly cleaning up their act.

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Despite trying to instill a customer-centric culture, as soon as Bezos let his foot off the gas, his company just isn't as customer obsessed. Or, they changed their definition of customer from the buyer to the seller. I dramatically lowered my buying from Amazon about 8 years ago, when I noticed that listings had reviews on items that were completely different than what was being listed. Apparently, sellers sell a kn…

Bezus checked out long before he moved to emeritus. Wanted to be a movie producer and shoot his rockets. Andy took over with all of the vision of a corporate franchiser running a Dollar Store.

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Amazon broke in 2020, when most shopping went online. It never recovered. I doubt it ever will. Trust takes a long time to earn, and a little bit of time to break. I had four or five incidents on Amazon, cancelled Prime, and I doubt it will ever make business sense for Amazon to get me back. I do think there's a place for a competitor to Amazon right now which looks more like the old Amazon. Starting one would be sup…

> Amazon broke in 2020 nah. jassy taking the reigns in 2021 is when the nosedive began.

He was representative, not causative. The rot had been settling for years.

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Man, I don't think this co-mingling thing was big or existed when I moved to a country that Amazon doesn't ship to directly almost 6 years ago. Reading about it on HN makes me feel fortunate. I can't recall ever running into something like this back then.

Amazon broke in 2020, when most shopping went online. It never recovered. I doubt it ever will. Trust takes a long time to earn, and a little bit of time to break. I had four or five incidents on Amazon, cancelled Prime, and I doubt it will ever make business sense for Amazon to get me back. I do think there's a place for a competitor to Amazon right now which looks more like the old Amazon. Starting one would be sup…

>I do think there's a place for a competitor to Amazon right now which looks more like the old Amazon.

If walmart plays their cards right, they can do it (I mean they did acquire Jet). Unfortunately they also seem to be OK with becoming a dropship frontend for aliexpress

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I recently had a similar experience with Amazon. I bought a pair of AirPods but didn’t like them, so I returned them the next day. Amazon confirmed they’d received the package, but when the estimated refund date passed, I got a message saying they needed more information. When I contacted customer service, they told me I had to send them a copy of my ID to process the refund. I was really frustrated; I’ve had this ac…

Amazon is in a hard spot with this stuff. They have massive problems with refund fraud, where people buy things and returning fake or used items in the box. Asking for ID is one way they try to spot people who are engaged in this activity repeatedly. When you refused to show your ID and did a chargeback, you did the exact same thing actual fraudsters end up doing, and of course they need to fraudulent accounts as oth…

That's all Amazon's problem, not mine
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