I find it interesting that Chinese brands copy Western brands, then Western brands copy Chinese brands and so on. Result is that new cohort of cars look like characterless AI slop.
BYD builds fastest car
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Re: BYD builds fastest car
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seven minutes for the Nordschleife? Sabine Schmitz could have done that with a van. But honestly, ther are a Lot of production cars that went considerably faster. And the non-production Porsche 919 Hybrid EVO did it in 5:19, which is an entirely different league.
> Seven minutes for the Nordschleife? Sabine Schmitz could have done that with a van. Sabine Shmitz did the 19,100m length in 10:08.49 using the ford transit van. That's a far cry from 7:14
I did not expect that anyone would take the first part of my comment seriously, but here we go.
However, this year a Ford SuperVan 4.2 made the Nordschleife in 6:48.393, so even without Sabine Schmitz a van was faster than the BYD.
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#53It seems to me like building the fastest EV has nowhere near the complexity of building the fastest ICE car. Way too many moving parts and fine tuning required to get an engine to 440Kmh (Chiron SS) than an EV with 4 big motors.
This comment has the same vibe at "football is easy, because the rules are simple". Something is only easy if you don't have to compete with others. If it's "easy" for you, then it is easy for others. So being the best/fastest is hard.
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#54It's wild that after a hundred years there is still exponential progress in the power output of cars. The most unusual part to me is how EVs are fundamentally a consumer technology, so it all rapidly falls into mass production territory; eg. Xiaomi sells a 1527hp car for $73k. Horsepower is rapidly reaching 'solved' territory; even at its record speed, BYD's car wasn't even power limited.
Re: BYD builds fastest car
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Seven minutes for the Nordschleife? Sabine Schmitz could have done that with a van. Sabine Shmitz did the 19,100m length in 10:08.49 using the ford transit van. That's a far cry from 7:14
I did not expect that anyone would take the first part of my comment seriously, but here we go. However, this year a Ford SuperVan 4.2 made the Nordschleife in 6:48.393, so even without Sabine Schmitz a van was faster than the BYD.
> I did not expect that anyone would take the first part of my comment seriously, but here we go.
> However, this year a Ford SuperVan 4.2 made the Nordschleife in 6:48.393, so even without Sabine Schmitz a van was faster than the BYD.
You are spouting such absurdities, that is a van in name only:
https://carbuzz.com/nurburgring-ford-supervan-42-lap-record-...
And it was driven by Romain Dumas someone far more qualified to set such a record than Sabine Shmitz - despite your "even without Sabine Shmitz" disingenuous wording. Sabine is half television personality half racing driver...
Re: BYD builds fastest car
#56video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD9v1WyAgLA same car doing Nürburgring Lap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td_c1zeEn2Q > The U9 was developed by German car designer Wolfgang Egger, who previously served as a head designer for Alfa Romeo, Audi and Lamborghini, and began working for BYD in 2017. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangwang_U9
Seven minutes for the Nordschleife? Sabine Schmitz could have done that with a van. But honestly, ther are a Lot of production cars that went considerably faster. And the non-production Porsche 919 Hybrid EVO did it in 5:19, which is an entirely different league.
> Porsche 919 Hybrid EVO did it in 5:19
If anyone hasn't seen this, I highly recommend it, even if you're not a car fan.
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yet none of the other mainstream automakers has done so.
Are they even trying? It seems like the only reason to do this is for publicity. Maybe a manufacturer that's known for their ICE vehicles would want an opportunity to show off their electric vehicle engineering but I don't know any it would make a difference for. US manufacturers even sell electric trucks. It's not like any mainstream manufacturer needs to rebrand to sell electric vehicles.
Research also might trickle down to production cars. Maybe research for some extreme project has more opportunity to find unexpected improvements compared to more tightly budgeted production research
Re: BYD builds fastest car
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Seven minutes for the Nordschleife? Sabine Schmitz could have done that with a van. Sabine Shmitz did the 19,100m length in 10:08.49 using the ford transit van. That's a far cry from 7:14
I did not expect that anyone would take the first part of my comment seriously, but here we go. However, this year a Ford SuperVan 4.2 made the Nordschleife in 6:48.393, so even without Sabine Schmitz a van was faster than the BYD.
There’s no point comparing apples to deep fried oreos for caloric density. The 919 Evo is a fully de-restricted prototype based off a legendary homologated race car, not remotely in the same category. The BYD U9 is a road-legal EV, comparing the two doesn’t mean much.
Funny you mention the Ford SuperVan because that’s much closer to the 919 Evo in the "no homologation no limits" category than anything you could register and drive off a lot. A fairer and much more impressive benchmark is the road-legal Ford Mustang GTD running a 6:52. That's still far quicker than the BYD, with roughly two thousand less horsepower.
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#59It seems to me like building the fastest EV has nowhere near the complexity of building the fastest ICE car. Way too many moving parts and fine tuning required to get an engine to 440Kmh (Chiron SS) than an EV with 4 big motors.
True, if your goal is "the fastest car, period" then you're going to pick the best technology for that. And as of now onwards, that's not Internal Combustion Engines. As you say, there are way too many moving parts in a legacy tech ICE engine.
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#60But will it have full self driving by the end of the year?
BYD made their Autonomous Driving Features free (1).
But they don't make false claims about them.
(1)
https://insidechinaauto.com/2025/02/11/byd-rolls-out-autonom...
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/02/11/cars/china-byd-smart-driv...