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Social Cooling (2017)

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Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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I find that awareness of the deep rabbit hole of surveillance capitalism, and how it increasingly extends into political and ideological realms to wield power and influence, makes me feel uneasy on all the physical gadgets I see all around me. And also the pervasive use of camera's everywhere, that send video streams into the cloud where numerous AI applications do who knows what with the data.

Like in the Netherlands in the Jumbo supermarket chain, which is the first to introduce an AI glaring at you through the camera while you walk through the store, and at the checkout self-scan, doing sentiment analysis to see if you are suspicious. It feels outright dystopic, and I avoid the Jumbo if I can. Also it is crazy how Tesla camera platforms are surveilling the streets of the world for the richest man in the world.

It seems these tech developments have cooling effects on society in the physical space. Cooling effects that serve the ones in power, I suppose.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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post #10

It's important to note that this page is almost 10 years old. I do find myself self-censoring in 2025, but it's for a far more boring reason than surveillance capitalism. It's because leaders on the far right literally said people should snitch on each other and dox each other. Much as I hate to say it, I'm sure people on the right have felt the same way for at least a decade.

I definitely try to avoid any public statement of political nature online. You never know how the tide will turn at some point and who gets into power. And then you do not want to have a record of having said the wrong thing about the new guy(s) at the top in your past.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

#23
The good thing about younger zoomers and alpha is they've already incorporated this into their lives, so none of this is grotesque or surprising. They've adapted their culture to match.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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I honestly love this as someone who never has a consistent identity in terms of the name I use online and not keeping a long history such as re-creating accounts whenever it is convenient. This is especially relevant on social media platforms where I don't want to feel like someone can just dig up something I've said or shared 5 years ago and use that against me. It also helps me stay myself without changing my behav…

For this you need to change more than just account. The way you write is your fingerprint. Concrete example with HN accounts was posted and tried several times.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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post #14
post #10

It's important to note that this page is almost 10 years old. I do find myself self-censoring in 2025, but it's for a far more boring reason than surveillance capitalism. It's because leaders on the far right literally said people should snitch on each other and dox each other. Much as I hate to say it, I'm sure people on the right have felt the same way for at least a decade.

It’s not specifically far-right thing. The left are snitching and doxing people for the last decade if not longer.

Not sure if you have read whole comment before posting this...

Yes it was common from every corner before. However now, it is encouraged from the governments. That means any laws that could help from cyber- or any other form of bullying will disappear. No matter how one think it was weak in practice, freedom of expression is going disappear completely.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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post #11

Is the self censoring of big boy and girl worlds like "murder," "suicide," "execution," "Nazi," and "genocide" on videos and posts related to this? It's been driving me crazy. Do not go quietly into that night and whatnot... Do not comply in advance. The idea of changing my speech so my words look nice next to a Toyota advertisement fills me with disgust and anger.

No, its to avoid auto downranking, by which ever filter the platform uses.

You can use all those words, but then, the theory goes, STT and OCR interprets the "bad" words and limits the reach of them.

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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You don’t need some kind of “social score” to have the chilling effect, if anything I think people self censor more because of the fear of getting berated by others for their beliefs—both by those they know and don’t.

Interestingly I don’t think it’s really “cooling” that happened - if anything it’s been some people becoming extremely hot, and then the majority of people, myself included, are experiencing cooling.

Unfortunately liberals lately reinforce this by being vitriolic over everything and endorsing toxic behaviors like cutting off friends and family because they disagree on politics, which probably undermines the democratic ideals they think they’re defending. [1]

I consider myself overall more aligned with liberals, but as a recent example, it disheartens me to open Facebook after a long time and see so many people I knew from years past reveling in Charlie Kirk’s death as though that makes their cause more sympathetic to alienate anyone who might have agreed with things he said (even if I generally don’t). This just reinforces division and increases the social cooling effect.

[1] https://open.substack.com/pub/theargument/p/were-not-all-goi...

Re: Social Cooling (2017)

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You don’t need some kind of “social score” to have the chilling effect, if anything I think people self censor more because of the fear of getting berated by others for their beliefs—both by those they know and don’t. Interestingly I don’t think it’s really “cooling” that happened - if anything it’s been some people becoming extremely hot, and then the majority of people, myself included, are experiencing cooling. Un…

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Re: Social Cooling (2017)

#30
As other people have noted, this is an old site, they also note that genz have partially learnt from our mistakes, and turned to ephemeral media, amongst other things.

The rise of AR glasses will of course kneecap anonymity in "real life"

But I look at the general collapse of "civility" in the USA and cant help but think of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink

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