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Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by jlgreco »

induscreep wrote: post #15
brian_cloutier wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been a while since I used it, but off the top of my head: - colors never worked right, you can certainly enable them but themes like solarized are impossible to get working. - it took forever to open. as in, a terminal on my machine is just a keypress away and it took the terminal on my osx machine a couple seconds to open a window, and even longer to show me a prompt - somehow they borked mouse input, so clicki…

Hmm I faced some of the same problems: - Colors work perfect with the tomorrow theme, kinda similar to solarized ( https://github.com/chriskempson/tomorrow-theme/tree/master/O... ) - I think I changed my shell to /bin/bash in the preferences, which fixed it - Haven't encountered this - Haven't encountered this

It's my understanding that bash has been the default shell in OSX for quite some time now, though I can't imagine tcsh started noticeably slower than it back when it was the default. On my incredibly underpowered machine the difference between the two is around 0.05s.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by X-Istence »

fingerprinter wrote: post #12

I have a Lenovo x220 running Ubuntu 12.04. Aesthetics of the machine aside, it is the best setup I've ever used for a development machine. Ubuntu is by far (we're talking leaps and bounds) better than OSX for dev work and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the keyboard on the x220. I don't have a XPS 13, but I can see any reasonable machine loaded with Ubuntu being a developers dream. Honestly, any machine loaded with Ubuntu these d…

How is Ubuntu by far better than OS X for dev work?

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by rimantas »

ars wrote: post #11

Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

My guess would be "In your face, Apple!" being one of the reasons. The need for this attitude is beyond my comprehension.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by jlgreco »

macco wrote: post #47
jlgreco wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have heard that Intel Atoms with internal graphics should be avoided since the graphics on those is not actually Intel's doing, though my eeepc with an Atom/internal graphics works fine.. maybe I got lucky. I wouldn't recommend getting a Lenovo with an Atom anyway though, if they even sell anything with Atoms (mostly just from a "If you are going to spend money, spend some money" standpoint.

This could be true, I was referring to iCore chips.

Yeah, those are all a dream and that situation is only going to be improving with all the Valve/Intel stuff going on.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by GrumpySimon »

ars wrote: post #11

Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

It plays into the "apple-is-dying" schadenfreude that many people seem to like a lot. Apart from that, there's nothing much there beyond a laundry list of computers he's used.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by X-Istence »

eropple wrote: post #4
induscreep wrote: post #2

Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with the OS X terminal?

Terminal.app often feels sort of clunky to me. I use iTerm2 instead--being able to split panes is really nice (no, I don't want to use tmux). The default userland is kind of annoying, in that a lot of utilities are BSD ones and aren't compatible with my imported-from-Linux scripts, aliases, etc., but that's just an install of coreutils away.

Yeah, I get annoyed too when people use Linuxisms in scripts because they don't ever run right on FreeBSD.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by emilis_info »

mxxx wrote: post #30
ars wrote: post #11

Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

agreed. the guy barely even mentions why he decided to move to linux, just that he did. or do people just like the sentiment?

Freedom of choice, being able to fix things yourself, ability to work on the same OS your server uses, being able to run old programs or on older/cheaper hardware -- all these and other things are not sentiments.

Why are you guys complaining about a guy choosing Linux over Mac? Is it because of the sentiment? :-)

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by klaasvakie »

ifmw wrote: post #16

I'm glad to hear sleep and hibernate are improving on Linux laptops and I really hope more manufacturers will follow suit with their own initiatives like this. However, will any portable laptop get 7 hours of battery life on Linux with wifi on like the 13" Macbook Airs do?

I'm getting ~8 hours with wifi with Ubuntu 12.04 on an Asus Zenbook UX31E. Everything works out the box with no tweaking, see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbook

If I had to buy now though, i'd get the UX31A (Full HD IPS in 13"), but looks like some things there don't work yet: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Post by wisty »

blrgeek wrote: post #17

1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal display is only 1366x768 ? 5. Does it detect a headphone and switch fro…

I use Linux on a VM, running under OSX.

OSX is ... finicky ... with dev tools. Apple does the compilers, and the bolt-on distributions (brew, Macports, fink) seem to have trouble keeping things compatible. Linux distributions don't end up falling behing their own compilers every time the compiler gets updated. I'd rather stay off the bleeding edge compilers, and have everything just work.

There is the "Apple tax", but it's hard to find a good lightweight laptop which is much cheaper than a MBA. A few hundred dollars cheaper, but you lose that on the resale value. For a desktop, there's no comparison (a $600 white-box will thrash an iMac, and if you pay for a nice monitor it's better to keep it than sell it bundled with an obsolete machine).

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