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Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal display is only 1366x768 ? 5. Does it detect a headphone and switch fro…

Look at the new Lenovo Carbon X1 - from what I've heard it pretty much ticks all of those boxes.

Anything Lenovo usually does. I've got a T61 and an X220 tablet here which everything in Ubuntu 12.04 works fine.

The only problem I've had was connecting to an SSTP VPN but that was resolved easily with an ssh tunnel.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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post #17

1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal display is only 1366x768 ? 5. Does it detect a headphone and switch fro…

So, specifically:

1. 4 hours depending on workload(sort of an air form factor with a core-i7).

2. Yes, all supported, and still using my apple magic mouse. Used Skype, Vidyo, and Google Hangouts.

3. Can't say for sure, no reboots so far, wakes just fine.

4. Using an external monitor at work with my apple display port -> dvi adapter, so pretty much worked no problem. I was worried about the display being lower res than an air, but it hasn't been a real issue.

5. Yes, work fine.

6. The trackpad is ok. functional, but more temperamental than the mac pro.

7. I like the keyboard better, but I've never liked the mac keyboards.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with the OS X terminal?

It's been a while since I used it, but off the top of my head: - colors never worked right, you can certainly enable them but themes like solarized are impossible to get working. - it took forever to open. as in, a terminal on my machine is just a keypress away and it took the terminal on my osx machine a couple seconds to open a window, and even longer to show me a prompt - somehow they borked mouse input, so clicki…

Never seen any of these.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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post #19

I have a Lenovo x220 running Ubuntu 12.04. Aesthetics of the machine aside, it is the best setup I've ever used for a development machine. Ubuntu is by far (we're talking leaps and bounds) better than OSX for dev work and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the keyboard on the x220. I don't have a XPS 13, but I can see any reasonable machine loaded with Ubuntu being a developers dream. Honestly, any machine loaded with Ubuntu these d…

Fingerprinter - same questions for you on the Lenovo x220 you use 1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal displ…

I've got Xubuntu on an X220.

1. About 5 hrs of web browsing (though I've gotten more once I was on a cabin w/o electricity and turned off wifi etc, there's a nice hardware switch to turn off all radio on the X220). About a year ago, there was this famous Linux Power Regression, where you had to append some stuff to your grub command line and worry about crashes. I tried it, and never got the crashes, and then they fixed the regression and I now run it unmodified with the same power usage. EDIT: there's several battery sizes, I think mine is the "medium" one, it sticks out a bit in the back …

2. Bluetooth: Tried it once, seemed OK. 3D: I don't really play games, but it seems to work w/o problems. Graphics just … work? Sleep/wake works just fine. No trouble with wifi. Webcam seems to work, but I've never tried video chat. I actually haven't tried the internal mike, maybe I should some day …

3. Yes.

4. Never tried. What's display rotate? It is unfortunately only 1366x768, yes. I tend to have one window on the left half and one on the right (got some keyboard shortcuts that do this for me even though I just run xfce).

5. Yes (isn't this handled by the hardware?)

6. Hehe … the trackpad is a bit weird: the buttons are on top. Takes a while getting used to. But it has the famous red Lenovo ball in the middle of the keyboard, which is nice for typists. And it has three mouse buttons! Scrolling works fine btw.

7. Infinitely better. You will never want to go back. If you really need OS X, buy a Lenovo and install it in Virtualbox, the keyboard is that good.

Annoyances: it doesn't look as good, and on lending the computer to other people, they often take a while before understanding the trackpad buttons.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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post #19

I have a Lenovo x220 running Ubuntu 12.04. Aesthetics of the machine aside, it is the best setup I've ever used for a development machine. Ubuntu is by far (we're talking leaps and bounds) better than OSX for dev work and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the keyboard on the x220. I don't have a XPS 13, but I can see any reasonable machine loaded with Ubuntu being a developers dream. Honestly, any machine loaded with Ubuntu these d…

Fingerprinter - same questions for you on the Lenovo x220 you use 1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal displ…

> 1. What's the battery life like?

Very typical to get 6-7hrs. If I turn down brightness and don't use power hungry apps (Chrome, Firefox), 7-9hrs.

> 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ...

Everything works out of the box. I haven't had to tweak a thing. I don't game at all, though, so I can't speak to the 3D in games.

> 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting?

Yes. I had some crashes in wake just before 12.04 went final, but nothing since. Hibernate works as well, you just need to turn it on.

> 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal display is only 1366x768 ?

Seamlessly. I haven't rotated the display, but I've heard it works.

> 5. Does it detect a headphone and switch from speaker to headphone automatically (speaker driver?)

Yes.

> 6. How's the trackpad compare to a Macbook Pro?

I prefer the nub, however, the macbook pro trackpad is still the best I've seen. I don't think this one compares, but it isn't bad, just not great like the MBP.

> 7. How's the keyboard compare to a Macbook Pro?

100 thousand million times better. I've never liked the MBP/MBA keyboards since they went chicklet style. I don't hate them, I just don't like them. The Lenovo/IBM keyboards are, quite simply, the best out there. I even bought an external Lenovo keyboard to use at my desktop I like it that much.

> Asking because I moved from Linux->OSX a long time ago, and I wouldn't mind switching back if the hardware is right and more importantly the Linux drivers work well.

The reason I bought a Lenovo x220, tbh, is because I had a friend tell me that they were at UDS in Oakland and the Ubuntu kernel team all had them. When you think about that, makes me feel pretty confident things will work correctly.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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post #19

I have a Lenovo x220 running Ubuntu 12.04. Aesthetics of the machine aside, it is the best setup I've ever used for a development machine. Ubuntu is by far (we're talking leaps and bounds) better than OSX for dev work and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the keyboard on the x220. I don't have a XPS 13, but I can see any reasonable machine loaded with Ubuntu being a developers dream. Honestly, any machine loaded with Ubuntu these d…

Fingerprinter - same questions for you on the Lenovo x220 you use 1. What's the battery life like? 2. Are all devices supported with drivers - Bluetooth, 3D, graphics, sleep/wake, 802.11n, webcam, internal mike, ... 3. Does it do instant sleep/wake like a Mac - 100s of times without crashing/rebooting? 4. How does it handle external displays? Plug and play like a Mac? Does it handle display rotate? The internal displ…

for my x220:

1. Fine. 9-10 hours with a 2 year old 9 cell battery. I run powertop and don't use unity though which is a power hog.

2. Everything works flawlessly

3. Yes but you have to enable it as Ubuntu turn hibernate off by default.

4. External display works fine. Never tried rotation.

5. Yes.

6. I don't use it. I use the nipple mouse. all trackpads make my fingers hurt as I have skin sensitivity issues.

7. Several orders or magnitude better than a MacBook. Keyboard is amazing.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Why are people voting up this article? There is nothing interesting in it. I'm genuinely curious about what people are finding interesting here.

"I used to really like Linux, and I can prove it. But I'm not willing to compromise on getting stuff done, and I can prove it. But now I can use Linux without compromising, and I can prove it."

Except he actually gives the proof.

Although anecdotal, that information is useful if you care about the state of the Linux desktop for any of a variety of reasons.

Though the real reason it's getting upvoted, I think, is: he has fabulous style. The post reads like a narrative, and he doesn't digress. And he has really clever subtitles and a great title.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look at the new Lenovo Carbon X1 - from what I've heard it pretty much ticks all of those boxes.

Anything Lenovo usually does. I've got a T61 and an X220 tablet here which everything in Ubuntu 12.04 works fine. The only problem I've had was connecting to an SSTP VPN but that was resolved easily with an ssh tunnel.

Anything Lenovo based in Intel preferable with internal graphics.

Re: Thanks Mr. Jobs, But it Seems I Can Use a Linux Laptop Now

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Can someone explain to me what exactly is wrong with the OS X terminal?

The few times I had to use it, I could not figure out how to turn off the chrome, though I suppose that is more of a general OSX complaint.

Otherwise, color support at least used to be dreadful. I believe this has been fixed recently though?

I think it still doesn't have proper mouse support though. Seems like a silly thing to have/want, but I find it very nice for resizing/focusing tmux panes/Vim windows, and scrolling in both.

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