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Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by measurablefunc »

chasing0entropy wrote: post #3
komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

Insanity indeed. Along the lines of trusting crucial business functions and general life philosophy to predictive text trained on the internet since no one remembers wow memes accurately proclaiming the true purpose of the internet. A design group that refuses to use lasers or radar for navigation does not prioritize sound engineering of any type let alone worst case design planning.

Profits must be made. How do you suppose they do that if they don't rush products to market?

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by raspasov »

tanvach wrote: post #5
komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

Bringing up the design flaws of my Model Y in any Tesla groups and I got endless amount of toxicity or aggressive responses. Theres a lot of fanboyism unfortunately. Reminds me of Apple during the Jobs era, but more insidious.

It’s true that before Apple Silicon one could make the argument that the hardware benefits of a Mac were mostly incremental vs a PC. But today that’s not true anymore. Today Apple is both form and function. I’ve personally heard many misguided people still repeating blindly that Apple is “just” fancy design without having used Apple Silicon computer.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by raspasov »

pjbk wrote: post #6
komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

Today I drove past a new Tesla Model Y, still with a temporary paper tag. As I was passing by I immediately noticed some pretty heavy water condensation inside one of the lateral tail braking lights. I just rolled my eyes.

Wow. If true that’s embarrassing.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by protocolture »

komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

"I had silicon valley interns reinvent the car from first principles, surely this wont have any consequences"

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

protocolture wrote: post #14
komali2 wrote: post #2

I just don't understand why people accept the sheer arrogance of the design of Tesla vehicles. I don't need to worry about the programming of the computer controlling the door handle in a Honda civic - it's mechanical and will work in basically all circumstances excluding catastrophic mechanical damage - in which case there's 3 backups on the other doors or I'm crushed anyway and it's irrelevant. Meanwhile I hear sto…

"I had silicon valley interns reinvent the car from first principles, surely this wont have any consequences"

In fairness, it's good to be willing to try a different approach from first principles. It's very easy to get locked in by your preconceptions about what works, and as a result miss out on better approaches. The thing is, you also have to have the humility to admit that the new approach is not turning out to be better, and uh... Elon doesn't have that to say the least.

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by Veserv »

But all you need to do to open the door mechanically is rummage around in the rear door pocket, remove the rubber mat, then pull the mechanical release cable: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/T4Rs2OQLrWw

What could be simpler after getting into a crash?

And there is no reason to talk about how people burn to death in Tesla's at ~4x the per-mile rate of the average car. I mean, Tesla releases intentionally deceptive statistics on their website [1] to convince you that you have ~8x the probability of getting into a fire in a non-Tesla and just intentionally not informing customers about the part where those fires are ~32x more likely to kill you. And that 4x excess fire death rate only results in like 4x as many excess fire deaths per year as the Ford Pinto; so really what is the harm?

[1] https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport

Re: Rescuer at Fatal Tesla Cybertruck Crash Says Car Doors Wouldn't Open

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Post by magicalhippo »

According to Bowers while speaking to local Fox affiliate KTVU, a bystander had gotten out of his car and pulled the surviving occupant out from the mangled vehicle.

From this[1] earlier article.

I've heard plenty of stories of regular cars having their doors get stuck in crashes, due to the frame bending, and firefighters having to cut the vehicle to get people out.

That said, seems[2] the electronic latches have been an issue for some time:

On October 24, just after midnight, a Tesla Model Y with five people inside crashed into a guard rail on a Toronto street, bursting into flames.

The car’s electronic door latches wouldn’t open, so rescuers couldn’t get in -- and the victims couldn’t get out.

And it’s not the first time something like this has happened. Back in 2019, a doctor in South Florida crashed his Tesla Model S into a palm tree, and the electronic doors wouldn’t open. He was trapped inside and died.

[1]: https://www.newsweek.com/3-dead-after-tesla-cybertruck-crash...

[2]: https://www.azfamily.com/2024/11/22/deadly-crash-highlights-...

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