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Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by trollbridge »

jacobgkau wrote: post #56
behringer wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

when your account is blocked you've been flagged for fraud. Nobody's going to talk to you due to legal reasons. You just have to wait for them to either unblock you or until you die.

> when your account is blocked you've been flagged for fraud. Nobody's going to talk to you due to legal reasons. Devil's advocate, what are the "legal reasons" a human can't talk to someone whose account their company has blocked? Especially when the violation was apparently minor enough that it's only a 2-day temporary block?

There aren’t any “legal reasons”. There is a risk/reward calculation where a gigantic corp concludes the reward of 1 extra customer is less than the risk of 1 potentially problematic customer, so they perform the equivalent of exile.

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by olex »

dylan604 wrote: post #19
prein wrote: post #6

I didn't even know they were using delivery drones yet. Why did they both crash, were they working in tandem carrying one payload or something?

The local Walmart nearest me has also started using drone delivery using Zipline drones. It's not a store I frequent, but recently drove past and the landing/launching site has a very unique look to it. At first thought, I thought it was a small carnival type of set up, but realized the rides looked really weird. There's large towers that remind me of the sculptures in Singapore near the ship on stilts building. I ju…

Zipline drones fly quite high, and instead of descending and landing to deliver their payload, they hover at altitude and lower a "delivery pod" down on a wire. The pod also has maneuvering capabilities, but all of its thrusters are fully enclosed, and it's designed to not cause any damage even it if collides with something during descent or ascent. Overall, a very clever design that should be safer, create no noise on ground level, and be able to deliver into much smaller and more confined landing zones.

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by bradfa »

SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #69
potato3732842 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any modern roofer or other worker that could fall far is wearing a safety harness (with some exceptions for flat roofs that have railing set up).

I've never seen residential house roofers wearing a safety harness, even on 2-story jobs. There's generally nowhere to clip the harness to on such buildings, so it wouldn't help anyway.

There's roof safety anchor systems which are designed for residential roofs. Look for something like the Ridgepro anchor: https://www.theridgepro.com/

It does seem best when using lag bolts to secure such an anchor to the roof but even when not screwed to the roof should provide some level of fall safety.

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by [deleted] »

trollbridge wrote: post #79
infecto wrote: post #68

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I am going to wager that 90% of resi roofers are not using harnesses unless the pitch of the roof is extreme. It’s all about the couch cushion.

Generally speaking you start doing that stuff once you get to 3 or more storeys, which is why residential mass builds are typically 2 or less. Workers’ compensation will specifically have job categories for work done on buildings 2 storeys or less, and it goes way up once you get to 3 (and even more for 4+). Even with all the gear, an unpredictable 80 lb object hurtling towards you is a major problem. Not to mention…

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Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by browningstreet »

OJFord wrote: post #45

> It's unclear if anyone was injured during the incident. 'It's unclear if' is a phrase that paints a brilliant picture of an organ's journalistic standing. It means there's no information either way, what follows is pure speculation, probably false, but the author can put whatever idea they want in our heads, since they've prefaced that it 'may or may not be the case'. It's unclear if the drones had malicious intent…

Per the video report, someone went to the hospital with difficulties breathing from fumes.

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by anigbrowl »

OJFord wrote: post #45

> It's unclear if anyone was injured during the incident. 'It's unclear if' is a phrase that paints a brilliant picture of an organ's journalistic standing. It means there's no information either way, what follows is pure speculation, probably false, but the author can put whatever idea they want in our heads, since they've prefaced that it 'may or may not be the case'. It's unclear if the drones had malicious intent…

Oh come on. This is just a stub article, saying two drones had crashed and police are investigating. It's clearly going to be a story of strong local and general interest, and they have limited information and a couple of photographs so the story is only a few sentences long for now.

Ranting about deeper meaning of the words in such a minimal bulletin is nonsensical.

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by anigbrowl »

slashdave wrote: post #55
sejje wrote: post #51

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I think they're just trying to get ahead of the question everyone wants answered, and they're saying they don't know yet.

How about "there are no reports of injuries"?

And if injuries are later reported people will sneer that 'media always gets it wrong/lies'. If they use plain language and say 'we don't know if anyone was injured yet' then people will sneer that 'I could have wirtten that, they're trying to sensationalize a nothingburger.'

Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by potato3732842 »

trollbridge wrote: post #77
potato3732842 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any modern roofer or other worker that could fall far is wearing a safety harness (with some exceptions for flat roofs that have railing set up).

You don’t wear a harness when framing and roofing 1 and 2 storey buildings. What would you even attach yourself to? “I will not be hit by an 80 pound flying missile” is a reasonable expectation for construction workers

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Re: Two Amazon delivery drones crash into crane in commercial area of Tolleson, AZ

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Post by ozten »

bradfa wrote: post #83
SAI_Peregrinus wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen residential house roofers wearing a safety harness, even on 2-story jobs. There's generally nowhere to clip the harness to on such buildings, so it wouldn't help anyway.

There's roof safety anchor systems which are designed for residential roofs. Look for something like the Ridgepro anchor: https://www.theridgepro.com/ It does seem best when using lag bolts to secure such an anchor to the roof but even when not screwed to the roof should provide some level of fall safety.

Are these used in practice? In what regions? In Seattle suburbs, I've never seen a crew wearing any kind of attached harness.
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