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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by NetMageSCW »

belst wrote: post #4
Animats wrote: post #3

The linked page says that Gmail is discontinuing support for the old Post Office Protocol in favor of IMAP. Nobody has used POP much in years. Decades, maybe. IMAP can check for mail without downloading. But apparently Gmail doesn't support that. You can do this the other way round. Use a local email client such as Thunderbird on desktop or FastMail on Android to check Gmail and any other email accounts you have.

only the phone app supports imap. the web app does not, it used to support pop

I don’t think that is a good way to express it. The gmail service supported POP and any gmail client (e.g. my iOS Mail app) could then get that email. It isn’t about only the web client.

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Post by pier25 »

xp84 wrote: post #41

Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

> while getting Gmail features for free

Maybe initially. But if you use Gmail for third party email storage (which is what the POP feature is really about) after some time you'll have to pay for Google One for more storage.

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Post by NetMageSCW »

noirscape wrote: post #170

They're almost certainly doing this to put the screws on Gmail users. Data export compat isn't great with Gmail to begin with, but at least with a vanity domain you could have the option to use that instead and if Google went bad, you could still use it directly without having to reconfigure a lot of stuff. (Since this feature is meant to integrate with shared hosting providers that offer an email service "for free".…

Forwarding works fine and has been how I’ve always used gmail.

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Post by pier25 »

mobilene wrote: post #25

Well _this_ is a pisser for sure. I've relied on POP3 email transfer for years and years so that I have one mailbox to check: Gmail.

Same. What are the alternative you're looking at? Currently looking at Zoho. Apparently Proton doesn't have third party POP accounts.

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Post by mrgoldenbrown »

ossusermivami wrote: post #194
_el1s7 wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.

I wonder why people come to conclusion like that to that specific problem. surely the user may knows that there is probably zillions (by that i mean a lot) of users using gmail via IMAP (at least the enterprise accounts) don't you think it's maybe something else you are doing that flags your account

The main point is that a paying customer shouldn't have to guess at why they were flagged.

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Post by immibis »

LightBug1 wrote: post #192
_el1s7 wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they froze my account because I was accessing it via IMAP Stop being misleading, this is your assumption. And while I agree that Google support generally sucks, you can actually contact real humans as a workspace customer easily.

Raises hand for another n=1 that I'm currently going through. My point being, it doesn't matter than you can get hold of someone because the bureaucracy is kafkaesque. WTF has happened to Google? We're a supplier being onboarded. We've been in on-boarding hell for about 2 months now. We've completed the job and are still being passed around teams in order to get paid. As an aside, one of the scourges of modern busine…

They've always been like this.

If you don't get paid for a contract, either repossess the work output, and/or file suit. That's the way to get paid for a contract when someone doesn't pay you for a contract. That's just how business is. A lot of businesses are out to get ahead by any means necessary.

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Post by sumanep »

warp wrote: post #147
bigwheels wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why do they need to remove the functionality? It's been working fine for around 2 decades. As a user of the feature, this is supremely annoying. They didn't even send me a warning message it will be discontinued.

Google nowadays just seems afraid to store personal data. Google have moved your maps history/timeline to be on-device only, seemingly in response to geofence warrants. They're also deprecating health (Google Fit) APIs, and moving that data to be on-device. So, removing POP (where they need to download emails to their servers), and only supporting IMAP (where emails stay on the third-party server) via their GMail app…

IMAP was never supported and is still not supported for external account un gmail web. And they don´t remove pop. You can use pop to access your gmail in any email client or in the app if you wish.

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Post by latexr »

f_allwein wrote: post #278
latexr wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unrelated, but I noticed this in your two comments and it seems to be something you do frequently—you’re using the wrong side of the quotation character as the apostrophe. You’re using ‘ but it should be ’. See the difference: I‘ll VS I’ll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_single_quotation_mark

no, it should be ' (ASCII 39, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostrophe )

The page you linked to lists both ’ and ', in that order. There’s no point in being (wrongly) pedantic about either, both have strengths and weaknesses (explained in the Wikipedia pages). The point is that if someone cares to use proper typographic characters not immediately visible in the keyboard (which the person I replied to seems to), they probably care to use the right ones. Both ’ and ' are correct, but ‘ is not.

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Post by [deleted] »

Mistletoe wrote: post #275
jsheard wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you set up the SPF/DMARC/DKIM authentication records on your domain? Those can make a huge difference to deliverability.

I don’t have a domain. It was Proton emails going straight to Gmail spam. I absurdly have even had similar issues on fresh virgin iCloud email accounts going straight to spam in Gmail.

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Post by mattzito »

kevcampb wrote: post #253
Dennip wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a super annoying quirk, lots of things don't work well if you're using workspace as a normal gmail account, and they don't quite warn you up front.

Google converted my mum's Gmail account to a workspace account automatically. Now she can't use her bedroom alarm clock because it's connected to my dad's Gmail account and you can't share access to workspace accounts. It's stupidly maddening. And yes I realise that an IoT alarm clock is ridiculous, but that's not the point.

It was a proper Gmail account? Or was it an email@domain account that maybe was using her work email address?

I’m asking because I used to work adjacent to this area, and I know of only a few scenarios where an account becomes a workspace account after being a consumer account.

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