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Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by rosseitsa »

eru wrote: post #15
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #12

As a European, I’m glad that the influence of big, potentially dangerous companies is being kept in check. From the start of October, Meta is completely switching off political ads and now I can look forward to my feed stopping with tabloids, politics and Russian propaganda and going back to technical curiosities and capybaras.

Why don't you just stop using Facebook, if you don't like it?

There is a level of investment we put in the platforms we use.

This comment is akin to asking farmers cut off from repairing their equipment "why don't you buy tractors from a different company instead of fighting to fix your existing ones?"

The investment in the case of social media is the network you've built. In my country most local events are announced primarily on facebook for example.

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by pettertb »

mattashii wrote: post #2

Judgement (dutch): https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025... The judgement requires Meta to change their platforms within 2 weeks so that the user's choice is persistent. If not implemented in 2 weeks, there is a daily penalty of €100'000, up to a maximum of €5 million.

Fines up to 5 million Euros against meta

Now, go away, or I shall taunt you a second time-a!

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by mrtksn »

mattashii wrote: post #2

Judgement (dutch): https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025... The judgement requires Meta to change their platforms within 2 weeks so that the user's choice is persistent. If not implemented in 2 weeks, there is a daily penalty of €100'000, up to a maximum of €5 million.

That how you build up a case for transferring control. First its "lol, 5m is a pocket change" and it becomes argument of politicians for tighter control over Meta. Then Zuck says they are trying to make the world a better place but it doesn't stick, people side with the politician who is building a career by sticking it to Meta.

So not entirely useless.

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by eru »

rosseitsa wrote: post #21
eru wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you just stop using Facebook, if you don't like it?

There is a level of investment we put in the platforms we use. This comment is akin to asking farmers cut off from repairing their equipment "why don't you buy tractors from a different company instead of fighting to fix your existing ones?" The investment in the case of social media is the network you've built. In my country most local events are announced primarily on facebook for example.

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Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by dmd »

mattashii wrote: post #2

Judgement (dutch): https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025... The judgement requires Meta to change their platforms within 2 weeks so that the user's choice is persistent. If not implemented in 2 weeks, there is a daily penalty of €100'000, up to a maximum of €5 million.

The judge: five .... MEEEIIILLIONNNN ... euros!

Meta: lol

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by School-Cotton »

55555 wrote: post #20

Please for the love of god make it a legal requirement that messaging must be made available as a separate app without addictive feeds. Or make it such that users can disable the feed in settings. We need to be able to message our friends without seeing a feed without having to convert all of our friends to a new platform.

Messenger is already a separate app.

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by saubeidl »

mrtksn wrote: post #23
mattashii wrote: post #2

Judgement (dutch): https://www.bitsoffreedom.nl/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/2025... The judgement requires Meta to change their platforms within 2 weeks so that the user's choice is persistent. If not implemented in 2 weeks, there is a daily penalty of €100'000, up to a maximum of €5 million.

That how you build up a case for transferring control. First its "lol, 5m is a pocket change" and it becomes argument of politicians for tighter control over Meta. Then Zuck says they are trying to make the world a better place but it doesn't stick, people side with the politician who is building a career by sticking it to Meta. So not entirely useless.

I'm not sure if you're arguing for more or less control being transferred from Meta towards the state, but I agree with your observation.

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by saubeidl »

eru wrote: post #15
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #12

As a European, I’m glad that the influence of big, potentially dangerous companies is being kept in check. From the start of October, Meta is completely switching off political ads and now I can look forward to my feed stopping with tabloids, politics and Russian propaganda and going back to technical curiosities and capybaras.

Why don't you just stop using Facebook, if you don't like it?

The network effect is real.

Re: NL Judge: Meta must respect user's choice of recommendation system

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Post by Klonoar »

eru wrote: post #25
rosseitsa wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a level of investment we put in the platforms we use. This comment is akin to asking farmers cut off from repairing their equipment "why don't you buy tractors from a different company instead of fighting to fix your existing ones?" The investment in the case of social media is the network you've built. In my country most local events are announced primarily on facebook for example.

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You have completely missed the point of what they are saying to you, or are being willfully obtuse.
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