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Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Didn't see any word on battery life fixes in 10.8.2 - any notes on this?

Here, let me Google that for you. The first Google result was this article, "OS X 10.8.2 Restores Notebook Battery Life to OS X Lion Levels."

http://www.macrumors.com/2012/09/10/os-x-10-8-2-restores-not...

In the future, if we're not around to look things up for you - give it a try sometime. http://google.com

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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Is this link US only or something? It only brings me to the unspectacular regular support page: http://i.imgur.com/g6fFz.png Is there another, better, link available?

I'm in the US and I get the same thing. No update available for me for OS X or for iOS. I'm guessing they do a rolling update...?

I'm in the UK and currently downloading the update for both iOS and OS X.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I shared many of those concerns from the previews given by Apple. That is until I actually tried using it, at which point I have deemed it much better than the Google-backed version. With that said, I think your location matters: Transit directions are not something I can use anyway, for instance.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I saw someone tweet (and someone I follow retweet) this: "Nine years ago Safari was released: a fringe browser that didn't run sites for IE well. Today, its engine powers everything. Now think maps."

I laughed and then felt really, really bad for them.

It's unbelievable the way people react to criticism. (in any cases, not just Apple/iPhone)

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

Eh, I tried the new Maps and it seems usable. What's really wretched in this release is what they've done to the App Store. It's now HTML5-based, like the old (and despised) facebook app. It crawls compared to the old one.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I saw someone tweet (and someone I follow retweet) this: "Nine years ago Safari was released: a fringe browser that didn't run sites for IE well. Today, its engine powers everything. Now think maps." I laughed and then felt really, really bad for them. It's unbelievable the way people react to criticism. (in any cases, not just Apple/iPhone)

Trojankitten is extraordinarily astute and her opinion is not to be dismissed as partisanship. She is correct in that Maps are a fundamental and incredibly important platform service that will only become moreso over time.

Doesn't change how much they suck today, though.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

Eh, I tried the new Maps and it seems usable. What's really wretched in this release is what they've done to the App Store. It's now HTML5-based, like the old (and despised) facebook app. It crawls compared to the old one.

That doesn't sound good. The app store wasn't all that zippy to begin with on a new iPad, and became nearly unusable on an (admittedly aging) 3GS.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I saw someone tweet (and someone I follow retweet) this: "Nine years ago Safari was released: a fringe browser that didn't run sites for IE well. Today, its engine powers everything. Now think maps." I laughed and then felt really, really bad for them. It's unbelievable the way people react to criticism. (in any cases, not just Apple/iPhone)

Trojankitten is extraordinarily astute and her opinion is not to be dismissed as partisanship. She is correct in that Maps are a fundamental and incredibly important platform service that will only become moreso over time. Doesn't change how much they suck today, though.

I have no idea who this person is other than guessing she is a female from her profile picture. It's also not the first tweet I've found to be completely off-base and ironically, the second today. The tweet about intro/extrovertedness is just flatly wrong.

I have no reason to take her tweet as anything but what it is. In context with her other tweets, I feel pretty damn safe in calling it at least a bit partisan. A quick scan of the first above-the fold tweets shows another conversation that is blatantly intentionally down-playing the badness of the iOS6 maps.

edit: I mean, I haven no stake in this, as I've said I have no idea who this person is, but you can't read through that feed and tell me with an honest tone that it's not biased. It's blatantly pro-Apple tweet, anti-Google tweet, ambiguous tweet about Microsoft competing with Google. Repeat.

edit2: I've devolved into an off-topic rant about some random Twitter account. I apologize. I'll merely conclude that likening iOS6 Maps to Safari (and really WebKit) as a response to how bad Maps is... is pretty desperate in my opinion.

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I saw someone tweet (and someone I follow retweet) this: "Nine years ago Safari was released: a fringe browser that didn't run sites for IE well. Today, its engine powers everything. Now think maps." I laughed and then felt really, really bad for them. It's unbelievable the way people react to criticism. (in any cases, not just Apple/iPhone)

I'd say the 2005 open source release of WebKit was a necessary precondition for "Today its engine powers everything."

Is there any reason to expect a similar direction for Apple with maps?

Re: iOS 6 and OS X 10.8.2 Now Available

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post #17

The native iOS 6 Maps are just short of wretched. No transit directions, unhelpful default views, a dramatically weaker points of interest database, weaker scrolling performance, and a busier UI that doesn't add anything of great use. It's a rather big turd in an otherwise delicious punchbowl, and it is going to become a real-world talking point about iPhones starting today.

I haven't had time to explore it very much yet, but I was a bit disappointed when I first launched it and found that the only overhead imagery available for my area is in black and white. It's hardly a remote location.

I suppose they will be making a lot of map-related deals over the coming months, but Google may have arranged exclusive contracts with some companies.

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