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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by commandersaki »

cracki wrote: post #80

There are two "Gmail" things here: the actual service with a web site (mail.google.com), and an android app on your phone that is called "Gmail". They are axing the "pull" path of the actual service. That path only supported POP for pulling those mails. There never was an IMAP pull path. They are telling you to read your mails of the "other" account by configuring your Gmail app to access it via IMAP. That obviously…

The solution is to push. Configure whatever system handles the "other" mail address to forward the mails to your Gmail account.

Yep, I have 4 gmail addresses that I set to copy and forward to my fastmail inbox, unless gmail kills that feature I am golden.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by Brian_K_White »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #69
cj wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead. The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

I think a minimum of being able to shut down an account when you fire someone and delete the data is worth having manageability, but small businesses will do anything, even additional staff administrative overhead, to avoid paying a subscription.

You can't both realize that getting people to pay you even a tiny but recurring subscription is how you get a fat and easy life, and at the same time fail to realize that paying anyone else even a tiny but recurring subscription is how you give someone else a fat and easy life at the expense of your own.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by xp84 »

czechdeveloper wrote: post #47
xp84 wrote: post #41

Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

They did the same with free version of Google Workspace. It's just no longer free.

Exactly. To Google, wanting to use a domain other than Gmail is a strong signal that they can probably shake you down for a few bucks a month. Sure it’s just $7 for most of these people and they probably only have 1-2 accounts. But multiplied by how many million people they saw using this feature it could be worth it to Google. Plus also ending the infra cost of fetching.

For those of us who were just using the feature to aggregate mail from other email addresses like an old Yahoo account or something, I doubt Google cares about it, they even probably kind of liked it that you’re viewing their ads instead of the other guys, but they probably don’t matter enough.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by xp84 »

cortesoft wrote: post #73
xp84 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds like an opportunity for a cool open source project: A container which checks a given POP account every few minutes, and copies the message into an IMAP server of your choice.

Someone created that project 29 years ago… fetchmail https://www.fetchmail.info/

Am I expected to keep abreast of developments in the tech world every three decades?? I’ve been busy.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by vdqtp3 »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #90
pmontra wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe you can automatically forward mails from that domain to Gmail and find a way to label them. At worst you can write a mail client to do that by logging in, listing mails, mailing them to you and keeping track of what it already sent (sqlite?) They are very well known protocols with plenty of implementations, so probably a LLM can write the code with not much guidance.

Good luck getting consistent delivery to Gmail. Even Cloudflare's email forwarding keeps getting blocked / marked as spam.

Which is hilarious considering they can't seem to stop obvious spam from hitting my inbox

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by geor9e »

mobilene wrote: post #25

Well _this_ is a pisser for sure. I've relied on POP3 email transfer for years and years so that I have one mailbox to check: Gmail.

>one mailbox to check: Gmail.

I do this, but I guess I'm safe, since I did it via the setting "Forward a copy of incoming mail to x and archive Gmail's copy" or equivilent option for each provider.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by cj »

Brian_K_White wrote: post #92
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a minimum of being able to shut down an account when you fire someone and delete the data is worth having manageability, but small businesses will do anything, even additional staff administrative overhead, to avoid paying a subscription.

You can't both realize that getting people to pay you even a tiny but recurring subscription is how you get a fat and easy life, and at the same time fail to realize that paying anyone else even a tiny but recurring subscription is how you give someone else a fat and easy life at the expense of your own.

The majority of small businesses aren’t subscription based services. I was assuming we were talking about companies like your local coffee shop.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by tarboreus »

leptons wrote: post #74
mobilene wrote: post #25

Well _this_ is a pisser for sure. I've relied on POP3 email transfer for years and years so that I have one mailbox to check: Gmail.

I use Firebird and have it check my various Gmail accounts using imap, as well as non-google email accounts. Everything in one place.

For now.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by tarboreus »

mustaphah wrote: post #17
flakeoil wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or forward your gmail to another proper email domain.

I just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.

This comment is from 1020.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Post by metadat »

londons_explore wrote: post #84
cj wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead. The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

I always find the admin panel hugely restrictive. It's missing basic features like "just let me impersonate this user now". The number of times our support staff have to walk someone through the process of doing something when the ability to impersonate a user would just let them do it far quicker.

> Nobody deserves even a modicum of privacy. Let's make it 0 friction to inspect what they're doing at all times.

Features cut both ways. Am I respectful of my work equipment? Yes. Would it be net good for my boss to automatically get a report of everything on my screen everyday, not particularly. So could we not have the largest platforms make it even easier than it already is to be creepy AF?

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