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Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by pixl97 »

Silhouette wrote: post #37
thewebguyd wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft enables self service trials and purchases on 365 tenants by default. Every new feature they deploy is on by default. This new personal account thing is also enabled by default. Microsoft has been hostile to internal IT teams for a long time. They burned that bridge with me and my peers a long time ago. Unfortunately, MS knows it’s a captive audience and enterprises aren’t rushing to exit Microsoft anytime s…

Unfortunately, MS knows it’s a captive audience and enterprises aren’t rushing to exit Microsoft anytime soon so they continue to get away with it. That is the traditional spin but if they pull many stunts like this how long will it continue? Corporate IT teams are infamous for being slow and unwieldy but that's not entirely fair because the corporate IT teams are usually also the ones on the hook if anything goes wr…

Who are these companies going to go to? Moving away from MS products is notoriously hard for larger enterprises.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by Analemma_ »

csb6 wrote: post #35
tsimionescu wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's this "Office 365" you're mentioning? Microsoft has, I kid you not, actually renamed Office 365 to Microsoft 365 Copilot. Of which Copilot is one part, like Word and Excel. Yes, a Microsoft 365 Copilot subscription gives you access to Microsoft Word and Microsoft Copilot. Please don't confuse it with GitHub Copilot, a completely different product. Or with Copilot Search in Bing.

What is it with Microsoft and confusing product naming schemes? There was Xbox One X/Xbox One S/Xbox Series S/Xbox Series X. Or .NET (previously .NET Core) vs. .NET Framework (which everyone used to just call “.NET”).

The tragedy is that Copilot actually was a brilliant name, back in the beginning when it was just a coding assistant. It was both evocative and descriptive: it's meant to help, but you are still in control. It was probably the best product name Microsoft had come up with years, so naturally there was no choice but to fuck it up.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by p_ing »

daemonologist wrote: post #44
tsimionescu wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's this "Office 365" you're mentioning? Microsoft has, I kid you not, actually renamed Office 365 to Microsoft 365 Copilot. Of which Copilot is one part, like Word and Excel. Yes, a Microsoft 365 Copilot subscription gives you access to Microsoft Word and Microsoft Copilot. Please don't confuse it with GitHub Copilot, a completely different product. Or with Copilot Search in Bing.

I present to you, the page of Copilots: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/copilot/microsoft-365/whic... (Note that they recently simplified their enterprise SKUs - there used to be one more I believe.)

There are many enterprise SKUs.

365 Copilot Chat - free SKU

365 Copilot - paid SKU

Copilot Studio lite - comes with above paid SKU

Copilot Studio full - comes with above paid SKU plus a user entitlement (free), though agents are charged based on credits (1 cent USD/message) if the agent user doesn't have a paid SKU

Then there are the other SKUs, i.e. Security SKU, SharePoint SKU, etc.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by baobun »

zamadatix wrote: post #38
csb6 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is it with Microsoft and confusing product naming schemes? There was Xbox One X/Xbox One S/Xbox Series S/Xbox Series X. Or .NET (previously .NET Core) vs. .NET Framework (which everyone used to just call “.NET”).

I'm still hoping for "Xbox One Series X" next

"Microsoft Copilot X" would be more on-brand for 2025.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by EvanAnderson »

danudey wrote: post #8

If Copilot was so great, surely I would have been asked to opt-in to a better Office 365 family plan with Copilot enabled, rather than trying to dark-pattern me into paying for a more expensive Copilot-enabled plan against my will (forcing me to attempt to cancel in order to be offered my old plan). It probably doesn't help that Microsoft is using 'Copilot' to mean so many different things - their Office AI integrati…

Oh, shit. I could have gotten my old plan? Yay. >sigh< I assumed I was just stuck paying more and didn't research it.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by [deleted] »

nashashmi wrote: post #49
willis936 wrote: post #13

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I cancelled my 365 subscription last night and was surprised to see that I was scheduled to pay $100 next month for an annual subscription tier that adds AI features that I would never use. The most valuable plan they offer is the one they charge the least for.

Yes they recently raised the price by merging copilot into it. No version of office is offered without copilot.

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Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by baobun »

nashashmi wrote: post #49
willis936 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I cancelled my 365 subscription last night and was surprised to see that I was scheduled to pay $100 next month for an annual subscription tier that adds AI features that I would never use. The most valuable plan they offer is the one they charge the least for.

Yes they recently raised the price by merging copilot into it. No version of office is offered without copilot.

> No version of copilot 365 is offered without copilot.

FTFY.

And I believed that they actually begrudgingly provide that option in the EU?

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by dev1ycan »

The length that these companies are going to avoid another financial crisis is hilarious... They poured trillions in they don't know how to salvage it...

It's scary because this will be worse than 2008, and it's right around the corner, think about how much Nvidia has grown because of LLM investment from companies like Microsoft and OpenAI, what will happen to inventory once it crashes? It's not just AI companies that will suffer, hardware companies will see massive dumping and unless they can do significant advancements soon, this won't suddenly be fixed.

They cannot admit to themselves that they've created a massive bubble that cannot be contained.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by fuzzzerd »

furyofantares wrote: post #21

From the linked blog post it sounds like IT still fully controls permissions to use or not use this. It's just that users can pay for it.

That would make sense, but that was not blindingly obvious from reading the article.

Re: Microsoft allows use of personal Microsoft 365 subscriptions at work

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Post by hshdhdhj4444 »

daemonologist wrote: post #44
tsimionescu wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's this "Office 365" you're mentioning? Microsoft has, I kid you not, actually renamed Office 365 to Microsoft 365 Copilot. Of which Copilot is one part, like Word and Excel. Yes, a Microsoft 365 Copilot subscription gives you access to Microsoft Word and Microsoft Copilot. Please don't confuse it with GitHub Copilot, a completely different product. Or with Copilot Search in Bing.

I present to you, the page of Copilots: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/copilot/microsoft-365/whic... (Note that they recently simplified their enterprise SKUs - there used to be one more I believe.)

This is hilarious.

> If you're an end user, have a Copilot installed, and not sure what Copilot you have

lol so they’re basically admitting their products are so confusing users need to read this document to understand which product they’re using.

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