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The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those guidelines that you reference talk almost exclusively about annoyances on the webpage itself, not the content of the article. I think it's fair to point out that many articles today are essentially a little bit of a human wrapper around a core of ChatGPT content. Whether or not this was AI-generated, the tells of AI-written text are all throughout it. There are some people who have learned to write like the AI…

Do you agree that bickering over AI-generated vs. not AI-generated makes for dull discussion? Sliding sewing needles deep into my fingernail bed sounds more appealing than nagging over such minutiae.

Almost as dull as being spoon-fed AI slop articles, yeah.

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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It truly is unfortunate. Thankfully most people seem to have an innate immune response to this kind of RLHF slop.

Unfortunately this can't be true, otherwise it wouldn't be a product of RLHF.

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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I don’t mind articles that have a hint of “an AI helped write this” as long as the content is actually informationally dense and well explained. But this article is an obvious ad, has almost no interesting information or summaries or insights, and has the… weirdly chipper? tone that AI loves to glaze readers with.

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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I'm guessing first draft was AI. I had to re-read that part a couple times because the flow was off. That second paragraph was completely unnecessary too since the previous paragraph already got the point across that "context window small in 2022".

On the whole though, I still learned a lot.

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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... for this specific use case (financial documents).

These corpora have a high degree of semantic ambiguity among other tricky and difficult to alleviate issues.

Other types of text are far more amenable to RAG and some are large enough that RAG will probably be the best approach for a good while.

For example: maintenance manuals and regulation compendiums.

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

#17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those guidelines that you reference talk almost exclusively about annoyances on the webpage itself, not the content of the article. I think it's fair to point out that many articles today are essentially a little bit of a human wrapper around a core of ChatGPT content. Whether or not this was AI-generated, the tells of AI-written text are all throughout it. There are some people who have learned to write like the AI…

Do you agree that bickering over AI-generated vs. not AI-generated makes for dull discussion? Sliding sewing needles deep into my fingernail bed sounds more appealing than nagging over such minutiae.

It certainly makes a dull discussion, but frankly we need to have it. Post-AI HN is now a checkbox on a marketing plan - like a GitHub repository is - and I’m sick of being manipulated and sold to in one of the few forums that wasn’t gamed. It’s not minutiae, it’s an overarching theme that’s enshittifying the third places. Heck even having to discuss this is ruining it (yet here I am lol).

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It truly is unfortunate. Thankfully most people seem to have an innate immune response to this kind of RLHF slop.

Unfortunately this can't be true, otherwise it wouldn't be a product of RLHF.

Crowds can have terrible taste, even if they're made up of people with good (or at least middling) taste

Re: The RAG Obituary: Killed by agents, buried by context windows

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you agree that bickering over AI-generated vs. not AI-generated makes for dull discussion? Sliding sewing needles deep into my fingernail bed sounds more appealing than nagging over such minutiae.

Almost as dull as being spoon-fed AI slop articles, yeah.

There's an idea - create a website which can accurately assess "Slop-o-Meter" for any link, kind of like what FakeSpot of old did for Amazon products with fake reviews.
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