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Post by ttoinou »

sfn42 wrote: post #162
ttoinou wrote: post #138

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You can be a smart politician and do stupid things. You can be dumb and vote for a smart politician. You can be a stupid politician and do not-that-bad-compared-to-the-smart-politician things. You can be smart and vote for a stupid politician.

Sure, a broken clock is right twice a day. And sure, you can be smart and vote for Trump. Maybe you just genuinely want the chaos and his policies. It's probably good for some people. But it's not good for normal people. Normal people vote for Trump and then turn around and cry that their insulin and other meds are suddenly too expensive again. Lots of stuff like that. Normal people are very clearly not well served b…

It's always a tradeoff, it's not about the broken clock. And the most probable alternative to Trump wasn't especially good either

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Post by klardotsh »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #146
mixmastamyk wrote: post #123

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Many expanded to Texas, for example. Also Hollywood left LA. There aren’t any/many desirable locations left in the US that have low housing costs.

People perhaps don't like the word desirable here. What I meant is not just pretty streets, but many other factors, such as nearby industry, infrastructure, educated workforce (in the thing you need), reasonable weather/sunshine, etc. Yeah, you can find something cheap, but often it is cheap for a reason. Especially when the whole country has a housing shortage. I'm sure Alaska is beautiful, for example.

Alaska is beautiful, but the polar opposite (no pun intended) of where someone should be looking for LCOL. Alaska is outrageously expensive for myriad reasons, and it is also not exempt from the nationwide housing crisis / greed crisis.

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Post by alphager »

ethanwillis wrote: post #156
ryandrake wrote: post #131

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There are also cultural differences in these low cost USA areas that will make it hard to find educated techies there and/or get them to move there. Like it or not, the socially-liberal urban-California culture has become a sort of "Defacto Standard Culture" for tech, and a company is not going to be able to simply move all these people to rural Alabama because the cost of housing and living is cheaper there. When wo…

What could we do to produce educated techies in these low cost areas? It seems like a USA specific problem because from my understanding low cost areas in much poorer countries produce many highly skilled educated techies. What are they doing differently from the US?

Those areas are producing educated techies. Those record them move to better areas.

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Post by sfn42 »

soulofmischief wrote: post #167
zenlot wrote: post #85

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You realize that the large country you're mentioning, with many opinions, still elect 1 president, who represents that large country with different opinions?

No, I don't realize that, because it's laughably false. The president is not elected to represent me, that's what Congress is supposed to be for. A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. It's understandably easy for people from smaller countries to not be able to fathom just how big and divided America is.

It's exactly the same thing man. 34 million people is pretty unfathomable too. One person can't truly represent all those just like one person can't truly represent 340 people. Unless of course those 340 people all self selected to follow that one person, but that's not how countries work. In all cases the members of the group choose whoever gets the most votes and everyone is never happy. The semantics of how the voting works may change but at the end of the day the people chose their president. And it just so happens the US chose a disgraceful orange clown twice.

For all their biglyness and dividedness, that's who they managed to unite behind. You can explain it however you want, to me it definitely means something and it's not a good thing.

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Post by fakedang »

ethanwillis wrote: post #165
fakedang wrote: post #163

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Here's an idea, better education? Replace the Bible with a science textbook.

There's plenty of science textbooks in our public schooling from what I've seen.

Not enough apparently, else you wouldn't see Texan schools debate about creationism vs evolution.

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Post by zenlot »

soulofmischief wrote: post #167
zenlot wrote: post #85

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You realize that the large country you're mentioning, with many opinions, still elect 1 president, who represents that large country with different opinions?

No, I don't realize that, because it's laughably false. The president is not elected to represent me, that's what Congress is supposed to be for. A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. It's understandably easy for people from smaller countries to not be able to fathom just how big and divided America is.

> A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people.

So how many presidents US have? 1 or many? I don't mind you're putting your opinion out, but it doesn't change the fact, despite that it sounds laughable to you.

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Post by soulofmischief »

zenlot wrote: post #176
soulofmischief wrote: post #167

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No, I don't realize that, because it's laughably false. The president is not elected to represent me, that's what Congress is supposed to be for. A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. It's understandably easy for people from smaller countries to not be able to fathom just how big and divided America is.

> A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. So how many presidents US have? 1 or many? I don't mind you're putting your opinion out, but it doesn't change the fact, despite that it sounds laughable to you.

It might seem like an opinion if you're uneducated about the American political system, but if you kill the negativity and actually go study how our government is balanced, you would realize that Congress represents the people, the president is a necessary function within our political framework, but the intention was never for a single person to represent the entire country, or we wouldn't have an entire legislative branch dedicated to just that.

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Post by soulofmischief »

soulofmischief wrote: post #177
zenlot wrote: post #176

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> A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. So how many presidents US have? 1 or many? I don't mind you're putting your opinion out, but it doesn't change the fact, despite that it sounds laughable to you.

It might seem like an opinion if you're uneducated about the American political system, but if you kill the negativity and actually go study how our government is balanced, you would realize that Congress represents the people, the president is a necessary function within our political framework, but the intention was never for a single person to represent the entire country, or we wouldn't have an entire legislative…

To go further, there is an inherent expectation that the president might go against the wishes of the people, which is why we have two other branches of government designed to enforce checks and balances.

This check and balance system has completely failed due to mass coordination, but the idea is that individual governmental positions have theoretical pressures against corruption, the possibility of corruption is built right into our Constitution.

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Post by soulofmischief »

sfn42 wrote: post #174
soulofmischief wrote: post #167

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No, I don't realize that, because it's laughably false. The president is not elected to represent me, that's what Congress is supposed to be for. A single man cannot possibly represent a country of 340 million people. It's understandably easy for people from smaller countries to not be able to fathom just how big and divided America is.

It's exactly the same thing man. 34 million people is pretty unfathomable too. One person can't truly represent all those just like one person can't truly represent 340 people. Unless of course those 340 people all self selected to follow that one person, but that's not how countries work. In all cases the members of the group choose whoever gets the most votes and everyone is never happy. The semantics of how the vo…

You are fundamentally misunderstanding the size and complexity of US politics, and harmfully oversimplifying what it means for a country to "choose" representation.

America is extremely divided, and viewing it as a single country where the "losers" deserve the negative consequences of the "winners'" choices is just absurd and void of empathy.

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Post by JambalayaJimbo »

anovikov wrote: post #106
DebtDeflation wrote: post #80

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Labor really is not fungible that way. On shore H1B Indians generally are higher skilled than offshore Indians, perform different roles at companies, and are paid more. Many of them could have chosen different careers than Tech and likely will if they move back to India.

Why not just move US H1Bs back to India and keep paying them US wages? They will be filthy rich in India, their living standards will literally skyrocket. They will be highly unlikely to leave. And keep them on same roles as they did in US.

Remote workers, especially if they’re in a different time zone, are likely not going to be as effective as onshore in-person workers.
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