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Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Or forward your gmail to another proper email domain.

I just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.

That's what I thought too until I moved to Fastmail. It certainly isn't worse.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

Doesn't Google Workspace start at $7 per month? I can't see a business user going to those lengths to save $1 or $2 per month.

I know businesses that use Gmail and have all their staff make username.businessname@gmail.com addresses.

Do not bet against how much small businesses don't want to pay for stuff, you will always lose.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Or forward your gmail to another proper email domain.

I just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.

Gmail is absolutely terrible for false positives. I'm sure they do it deliberately to discourage people from using other e-mail services.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Doesn't Google Workspace start at $7 per month? I can't see a business user going to those lengths to save $1 or $2 per month.

I know businesses that use Gmail and have all their staff make username.businessname@gmail.com addresses. Do not bet against how much small businesses don't want to pay for stuff, you will always lose.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead.

The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #41

Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

Very cheap email hosting still generally comes with IMAP I think? Which gmail is still supporting. EG Namecheap $1/mo email comes with IMAP.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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I just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.

Gmail is absolutely terrible for false positives. I'm sure they do it deliberately to discourage people from using other e-mail services.

What's your setup? If you're forwarding, an SPF-only aligned email will fail DMARC, and it's the sender's fault: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45441243

Next time a legit email ends up in your spam folder, use this tool to figure out why: https://mxtoolbox.com/EmailHeaders.aspx

I've had a few cases myself, and it's always been the sender's fault.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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post #64

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I know businesses that use Gmail and have all their staff make username.businessname@gmail.com addresses. Do not bet against how much small businesses don't want to pay for stuff, you will always lose.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead. The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

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Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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I just can't live without the Gmail spamfilter. It's just the best. Industry-leading; no question.

That's what I thought too until I moved to Fastmail. It certainly isn't worse.

Fastmail is great. It's just that I'm not willing to pay 5$ each month to send 5 emails from @mydomain.com. 1$ per email is too much, right?

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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I know businesses that use Gmail and have all their staff make username.businessname@gmail.com addresses. Do not bet against how much small businesses don't want to pay for stuff, you will always lose.

The bigger cost of Google Workspace is the administrative overhead. The admin panel for Google Workspace is extremely powerful. Hundreds/thousands of settings. Great for medium/large businesses with a dedicated IT person. A huge headache for small businesses.

I think a minimum of being able to shut down an account when you fire someone and delete the data is worth having manageability, but small businesses will do anything, even additional staff administrative overhead, to avoid paying a subscription.

Re: Gmail will no longer support checking emails from third-party accounts via POP

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Hypothesis: This feature is actually a very serviceable way for a small business or individual to have a branded email address on very cheap email hosting, while getting Gmail features for free. Google wants such people to be paying for Google Workspace if they don't want to be advertising the Gmail brand on their address.

Very cheap email hosting still generally comes with IMAP I think? Which gmail is still supporting. EG Namecheap $1/mo email comes with IMAP.

How is google mail still supporting a "fetch" via IMAP of mails stored in a third party service? What are the settings to poke on mail.google.com for this?

The announcement clearly says that "Check mail from other accounts" will disappear. They say it's about POP, but if the entire feature disappears, then it's not just about POP.

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