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Re: How did Renaissance fairs begin?

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What interests me is why humans crave this one time in history (medieval?). It’s old enough to be different than now but not old enough to be like caveman times? Lower technology than now but not no technology. Do people in other countries that aren’t western civilization have similar cravings for that era or an era like it?

first off, as a ren fest veteran, it's easier to just take "renaissance" to mean "basically any time between the collapse of rome and world war i, also with the possibility of time travellers and things that never existed in the first place and anachronisms like turkeys in pre-Colombian England" and take "Renaissance" with the capital "r" to mean "from the 1300s to roughly the discovery of the new world" Second, I th…

I think it's partly because this is what was started and caught on.

There are also folk life festivals with traditional art forms from before mass production, frontier festivals, colonial festivals, Civil War reenactments, Revolutionary War reenactments, the Vintage Computer Festivals, conventions for antique radio and TV equipment, and all sorts of periods people commemorate. This is the one that has been around a few decades, caught on in a big way, and spread nationwide.

There are also pumpkin festivals, apple festivals, corn festivals, other harvest festivals, May Day festivals, county fairs, state fairs, and more despite most of the things involved in all of these are anachronistic for most of the population. Very few people actually raise prize cattle, sheep, and pigs. Very few farm crops. We still celebrate these as if we’re an agrarian society though.

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Are they all just focused on sex, debauchery, lots of drinking today? I went to the one near Pasadena around a decade ago, maybe related to the OG faire, and there was so much sexual humor in the open air (like jokes shouted by storekeepers, and in the play being run) where I'd consider it an adult environment. It was a little disappointing because I was expecting something like a live-action museum, sort of like col…

Is that not authentic?

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What interests me is why humans crave this one time in history (medieval?). It’s old enough to be different than now but not old enough to be like caveman times? Lower technology than now but not no technology. Do people in other countries that aren’t western civilization have similar cravings for that era or an era like it?

I had a friend group who participated in these fairs and Dagorhir (battle roleplay + foam padded weapons).

I never asked them why they participated. But from observation they had great joy in hand crafting costume, weapons, and armor, then utilizing their craft to roleplay and battle. Maybe there’s something to be said about ownership.

I’d also hesitate to guess that the medieval time period was a time when most of the technology at the time could be understood and actively participated by the average person while simultaneously supporting a growing! civilization.

Now the average person undesirably participates in a no or low growth job where they have no agency in their day to day.

Re: How did Renaissance fairs begin?

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Renaissance fairs don’t really exist in Europe. Most countries have their own traditional festivals and customs which date back to that time period.

> Renaissance fairs don’t really exist in Europe. We have them in Slovenia. In the summer local castles will put on a fair for the tourists and kids. Sometimes multiple! Typically you get a visiting troupe or two from Italy, they like to do flag twirling shows. There’s always a group of folks from Czech who put on an armored fighting competition. I’ve seen jousting tournaments too. And then you have a slew of local a…

There were at least a dozen this past summer. There was one in Žovnek Castle two weeks ago. A couple of weeks before that, in Ptuj. Before that, in Celje. Before that, there was a Roman-era festival in Ptuj, which was seriously cool. And the best medieval-themed festival was in Žužemberk.

I went to all of them because I have young kids and they love that stuff. It's a fun day out. Also gives us an excuse to wear all of the arms and armor we've collected, lol.

There are lots of these in Austria, too, BTW. There was a two-week-long joust fair/festival by Millstätter See in early August!

In truth, these festivals are all over Europe. They're just not well advertised, so you have to look for them.

The next one in the region, by the way, is the medieval-themed Advent festival at the castle in Friesach. (Austria.) I'll be there for sure.

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Are they all just focused on sex, debauchery, lots of drinking today? I went to the one near Pasadena around a decade ago, maybe related to the OG faire, and there was so much sexual humor in the open air (like jokes shouted by storekeepers, and in the play being run) where I'd consider it an adult environment. It was a little disappointing because I was expecting something like a live-action museum, sort of like col…

I recently went to the New York one. It seemed to mainly be about cosplay (showing off your own cosplay, vendors selling cosplay-related supplies) and various kids activities. Although there certainly was drinking, and a car crash - probably caused by the drinking - very soon after the exit from the parking lot.

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I went down a rabbit hole on Wikipedia about turkeys. Am I understanding it correctly in that turkeys went from South America to Europe then to North America? So it's native to the new world, but not native to North America? Anyway, 1500s is when they came to Europe, so maybe they did enjoy a good turkey leg...

Turkeys in the northwestern US are not native. They were released here (and periodically restocked) in order to be hunted.

Re: How did Renaissance fairs begin?

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None of these answers are accurate.

What happened is that this county gathering has been happening for centuries. Since 1253 in truth. First it was called a gathering, then a cobble, and finally in 1582, the Franks took it over.

It was highly popularized as a French affair. The whimsical garb, the music, all something the stodgy English would have no part in. In fact, so stodge were they that it was forced outdoors, as none would rent to the Franks for this. Quite rude, in the rainy land of the Brits!

Eventually it became Frank-aire, just as other loan words from French, like concessionaire or millionaire, and then just Faire.

It's really the world's longest running annual gathering, where there's always a redhead in the same maid outfit. 538 years running, this year in fact! You can find it in the Guinness Book of World Records!

Re: How did Renaissance fairs begin?

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Since 1963. The Byrds attended the first series of renfaires. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AFlBoxsAkI#ren https://www.amazon.com/Well-Met-Renaissance-American-Counter...

One could make the argument that you're off by about 125 years.

The 1839 Eglinton Tournament, was, in a way, a Renaissance Fair. It was a massive spectacle at the time, became enduringly famous (or infamous), and helped to kick-off the Romantic 19th century fascination with the medieval:

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglinton_Tournament

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What interests me is why humans crave this one time in history (medieval?). It’s old enough to be different than now but not old enough to be like caveman times? Lower technology than now but not no technology. Do people in other countries that aren’t western civilization have similar cravings for that era or an era like it?

> What interests me is why humans crave this one time in history (medieval?). Based on the OP, it sounds like it's nothing special about the time period. It sounds like someone put one on as a one time event then it became regular event. People think they're fun, and it spread. > It’s old enough to be different than now but not old enough to be like caveman times? Ancient Greece/Rome would also fit that bill, but I h…

Sadly the illuminati called dibs on having events based on that time period.

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In my experience, Ren Faires tend to run the whole range of early medieval to renaissance times. In Florida, there is a permanent year round dinner entertainment show that includes horseback stunts called Medieval Times. In my local Ren Faire, it's really all meshed together, if someone wanted to have a viking event or attraction it would fit right in and no one would bat an eye.

Medieval Times has nine locations in the US and one in Canada.

Didn't realize, was only aware of the FL one. Good to know!
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