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Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by blibble »

latexr wrote: post #8
blitzo wrote: post #2

I always wonder what GitHub has that Codeberg doesn't. It's a shame this isn't as popular. It seems like developers, of all people, are willingly letting their code be AI piggybacked.

For many it isn’t easy to just up and abandon what they built on GitHub, especially if they have a big community and open issues and PRs. Familiarity also plays a big role, you can’t simply expect to open an account on a different forge and be done, it consumes time to get acquainted with the new stuff. Also GitHub may give access to more resources: For example, you can just use GitHub actions in your repo, private o…

> For many it isn’t easy to just up and abandon what they built on GitHub, especially if they have a big community and open issues and PRs.

it's really easy because the codeberg importer is really good

it correctly imports all your pull requests and issues, preserving usernames, everything

you then put the new URL in the GitHub description and archive the project

and then a year down the line you delete the GitHub repository entirely

I moved about 70 projects, half a dozen with several hundred stars and forks

and each major project that leaves does n^2 damage to GitHub, it's the network effect in reverse!

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by blibble »

codeberg is great

the interface is far more responsive, despite each click loading a new page (vs. the disaster than is react)

and it is run by a charity, so it will never enshittify

which GitHub is doing more and more with each passing day (no I don't want your shit "AI", not now, not ever)

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by daneel_w »

blitzo wrote: post #2

I always wonder what GitHub has that Codeberg doesn't. It's a shame this isn't as popular. It seems like developers, of all people, are willingly letting their code be AI piggybacked.

GitHub doesn't make your choice of content license their business.

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

#34

Post by jwildeboer »

zhobbs wrote: post #12
blitzo wrote: post #2

I always wonder what GitHub has that Codeberg doesn't. It's a shame this isn't as popular. It seems like developers, of all people, are willingly letting their code be AI piggybacked.

conversely, what's the purpose of using Codeberg over Github?

No AI, EU based, so respects the GDPR for all users, regardless of where they live, you can send PRs to make it better, is 100% Free Software, has its own Actions system that is also 100% Free Software, the logo is nice, you can become a member of the Berlin based association and have a direct vote on policy/feature changes.

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

#35

Post by daneel_w »

max_ wrote: post #30
blitzo wrote: post #2

I always wonder what GitHub has that Codeberg doesn't. It's a shame this isn't as popular. It seems like developers, of all people, are willingly letting their code be AI piggybacked.

Codeberg suffers from the same problem as sourcehut. They are so fanatical that many groups are unable to use them. Sourcehut for example is hostile towards cryptocurrency related projects. Coderberg is hostile towards private repos.

> "They are so fanatical that many groups are unable to use them."

I had open-sourced stuff there licensed under Creative Commons, which was forcibly removed. They do spell the license requirements out in their terms, I just can't wrap my head around the obstinacy. Calling it unhelpful do-goodery would be flattering. Fanatical is indeed the right word.

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by dismalaf »

ashton314 wrote: post #18
dismalaf wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Codeberg doesn't allow any projects that aren't FOSS. Personally I use Gitlab.

Not quite: Codeberg discourages you from having too many closed source projects, but you can absolutely have private repositories. I have several. They explain the rules here: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-pri...

How much they tolerate private projects and the specific rule you link is so vague it's worthless.

I want 100% certainty that if my side project makes money they're not going to come after me for breaking terms. Anything less is worthless.

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by blibble »

dismalaf wrote: post #36
ashton314 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite: Codeberg discourages you from having too many closed source projects, but you can absolutely have private repositories. I have several. They explain the rules here: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-pri...

How much they tolerate private projects and the specific rule you link is so vague it's worthless. I want 100% certainty that if my side project makes money they're not going to come after me for breaking terms. Anything less is worthless.

> I want 100% certainty

this is completely unrealistic even if you're paying a company to host your stuff

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by kstrauser »

dismalaf wrote: post #36
ashton314 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not quite: Codeberg discourages you from having too many closed source projects, but you can absolutely have private repositories. I have several. They explain the rules here: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/faq/#how-about-pri...

How much they tolerate private projects and the specific rule you link is so vague it's worthless. I want 100% certainty that if my side project makes money they're not going to come after me for breaking terms. Anything less is worthless.

Worthless _to you_. Given that it's a free service, I think it's perfectly reasonable that they only want to host Free software. There are any number of other tools catering to businesses.

Re: Codeberg Reaches 300k Projects

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Post by dismalaf »

blibble wrote: post #37
dismalaf wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much they tolerate private projects and the specific rule you link is so vague it's worthless. I want 100% certainty that if my side project makes money they're not going to come after me for breaking terms. Anything less is worthless.

> I want 100% certainty this is completely unrealistic even if you're paying a company to host your stuff

It's not. If the terms of use unambiguously allow it, the law is on your side no matter what the host tries.
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