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Re: Sora 2

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Post by hombre_fatal »

wrigby wrote: post #553
raincole wrote: post #547

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a social experiment to reveal how senseless and pointless pop entertainment could be. (personal rant) I've been in a mild existential crisis since I read Amusing Ourselves to Death . Can one form of entertainment really be more well-regarded than another? Is fine art fundamentally different from pop art? Are there 'finer' pop cultures amongst all pop cultures? I do still think reading The Song of Ice and Fire is m…

There are two completely distinct differences that jump out to me initially that I think may help justify your feelings: 1: Reading a long book demands focus on a longer timespan than scrolling TikTok, and with focusing on a single thing for a long time, we get a sense of accomplishment. I don’t know how to justify this as valuable, but for some reason I feel that it is. 2: The Song of Ice and Fire (and GoT) were con…

You're missing what I think is the major one: fulfillment.

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Post by password54321 »

the_duke wrote: post #401
password54321 wrote: post #400

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Touch grass. This is nothing but cringe that I wouldn't wish upon children.

Kids are going to absolutely love this.

This is why a group of single/childless men should not be behind products they think will be good for children. Children can watch Skibidi Toilet on loop a million times and not get bored, that doesn't mean it is good for them.

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Post by etrvic »

In light of some comments and videos here, I’d like to morbidly announce that I can no longer distinguish between AI videos and real ones. However, I’ll take this as an opportunity to move from short-form content to long-form, since it seems that space hasn’t yet been hijacked by AI.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by physicalscience »

raincole wrote: post #547
morleytj wrote: post #496

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Not to be a downer, but even as someone very optimistic about technology and AI generally, "TikTok but AI" sounds like a societally terrible thing to try and create. What's the benefit of this? Curious if anyone has a solid viewpoint steelmanning any positives they can think of.

As a social experiment to reveal how senseless and pointless pop entertainment could be. (personal rant) I've been in a mild existential crisis since I read Amusing Ourselves to Death . Can one form of entertainment really be more well-regarded than another? Is fine art fundamentally different from pop art? Are there 'finer' pop cultures amongst all pop cultures? I do still think reading The Song of Ice and Fire is m…

Could it be the incentives? With regard to books, paintings, theater, etc. you have an incentive to produce something that is meaningful or at least entertaining. Generally the artist is attempting to turn abstract thoughts or ideas into something real or quantifiable.

But TV and Social Media have their incentives twisted. It's just about ads. They don't really care what you are seeing as long as you are seeing as many ads as possible. The joke about TV was that a valid description of it was advertisements with a little bit of entertainment sprinkled in throughout.

I'm not saying that people haven't been able to use these platforms to build anything meaningful, but that the incentives and the purpose of these platforms are not to entertain, but to keep you glued to the feed for as long as possible to see as many ads as possible (which is why I think "rage bait" is so common).

Re: Sora 2

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Post by cesarvarela »

nycdatasci wrote: post #407

What makes TikTok fun is seeing actual people do crazy stuff. Sora 2 could synthesize someone hitting five full-court shots in a row, but it wouldn’t be inspiring or engaging. How will this be different than music-generating AI like Suno, which doesn't have widespread adoption despite incredible capabilities?

Considering that much of the TikTok content you mention is staged or heavily edited, this skips the make-believe.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by chii »

danielscrubs wrote: post #699
newZWhoDis wrote: post #591

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We live in an absurd era where "AI Safety" means "AI that doesn't listen to the human telling it what to do". It'll all be rather funny in retrospect.

It will be funny if it isn’t social engineering. But if we find it drifts further and further from the truth in cases of biases in news articles, image generation and others we will find ourselves bombarded with historical deviances where everyone can be nudged to anything. All in the name of safety.

that's why the AI capabilities should be as decentralized and "localized" as possible - aka, i want to own the hardware and software for LLM, image generation, etc etc.

Until these ai capabilities are as neutral and un-discriminatory as electricity, centralized production means centralized control and policies. Imagine if you are not allowed to use your electricity to power some appliances, because the owner of the power-plant feels it's not conducive to their agenda.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by Geenkaas »

MattRix wrote: post #721
echelon wrote: post #628

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Welcome to the future, where the notion of "classics" is just a point in the memetic information manifold: https://x.com/theo/status/1973167911419412985 (Music video with Sam Altman as Skibidi Toilet) This is pretty fun. These keep getting wilder and wilder: https://x.com/MatthewBerman/status/1973115097339011225 (Kinda gross) https://x.com/cloud11665/status/1973115723309515092 (Japanese) It can do cartoons: https://x…

That movie trailer isn’t made with Sora (or AI at all, as far as I can tell?)

The irony is not lost I hope.

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Post by timdiggerm »

crucialfelix wrote: post #414
the_duke wrote: post #273

I haven't seen comments regarding a big factor here: It seems like OpenAI is trying to turn Sora into a social network - TikTok but AI. The webapp is heavily geared towards consumption, with a feed as the entry point, liking and commenting for posts, and user profiles having a prominent role. The creation aspect seems about as important as on Instagram, TikTok etc - easily available, but not the primary focus. Genera…

> It seems like OpenAI is trying to turn Sora into a social network - TikTok but AI. That's a direct copy of what Midjourney has done already. https://www.midjourney.com/explore?tab=videos Many people are just playing with images and the distinctive styles that Midjourney (the model) seems to have developed. It's also trained by ratings and people's interactions. When you make images you can dial down the "aesthetic"…

That's interesting, but how many people are actually going to just scroll and watch these (thereby generating ad revenue)?

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Post by mavamaarten »

Ugh. While technically extremely impressive, I'm so tired of the slop. Every AI content generation tool should have a watermarking system in place, and sites like YouTube should have a way to filter out AI generated content from search results with the press of a button.

Ever since the launch of Veo, there's already so much AI slop videos on YouTube that it becomes hard to find real videos sometimes.

I'm tired, boss.

Re: Sora 2

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ketlag wrote: post #662
echelon wrote: post #628

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to the future, where the notion of "classics" is just a point in the memetic information manifold: https://x.com/theo/status/1973167911419412985 (Music video with Sam Altman as Skibidi Toilet) This is pretty fun. These keep getting wilder and wilder: https://x.com/MatthewBerman/status/1973115097339011225 (Kinda gross) https://x.com/cloud11665/status/1973115723309515092 (Japanese) It can do cartoons: https://x…

If you think this stuff is going to last longer than four months, dog, we're cooked.

Maybe some MAY end up in compiliations in ten years, much like Vines do today. But there will be a million times more tiktoks and a billion times more AI generated videos than there were vines, so if 0.01% of vines became memetic, the amount of AI generated ones will be infintesimal.
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