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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by larusso »

dylan604 wrote: post #9
aspenmayer wrote: post #3

Related, but not yet posted to HN that I know of: Leaked unboxing video reveals unannounced M5 iPad Pro in full - https://9to5mac.com/2025/09/30/leaked-unboxing-video-reveals... https://x.com/markgurman/status/1973048229932507518 | https://xcancel.com/markgurman/status/1973048229932507518 Exclusive! Unboxing the iPad Pro with the M5 before Apple! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnzkC2q-iGI

> Exclusive! Unboxing the iPad Pro with the M5 before Apple! Big boy is bitching about a meager 10% increase in CPU and 30% increase in GPU as a nothing burger. "Who would upgrade from M4 to M5?" exactly. The difference is when you upgrade from older to latest. Most people do not upgrade annually. I'm looking to replace my 6th gen tablet, but now I might just get an m4 after the m5 is official and get a nice discount…

I also don’t understand what people expect. Also it seems that everybody is constantly grilling their machines. Otherwise I can’t understand this need for even more power. I have the iPhone 16ProMax and upgraded from a 13ProMax. I didn’t really feel a difference. Mainly because I don’t use my phone for high performance applications or gaming.

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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by [deleted] »

kwanbix wrote: post #11
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

If you are OK with the closed apple ecosystem, sure, but I mean, 20% is not that much for 99% of the population. Don't get me wrong, I really admire what apple has done with the M CPUs, but I personally prefer the freedom of being able to install linux, bsd, windows, and even weirder OSes like Haiku.

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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by CharlesW »

latexr wrote: post #42
doctoboggan wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting What rumors have you seen? Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. Is there more evidence this is happening? If anything, Apple's recent moves to "macify" iPadOS indicate their strategy is to tempt people over into the locked down ecosystem, rather than bring the (more) open macOS to the iPad.

> Anytime I've seen speculation, Apple execs seem to shut that idea down. They also said they weren’t merging iOS and macOS, and with every release that becomes more of a lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYikXbC6Fs

Strategies change. That was 7 years ago, pre-Apple Silicon. It turns out that people want windowing options on their large and expensive tablet, to do long-running tasks in the background, etc.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by ajross »

AlphaAndOmega0 wrote: post #16

I own an M4 iPad Pro and can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower, given iPadOS's limitations. The rumors about an upcoming touchscreen Mac are interesting, perhaps Apple will deign to make their ridiculously overpowered SOCs usable for general purpose computing. A man can dream..

> can't figure out what to do with even a fraction of the horsepower

That's sort of the funny thing here. Apple's situation is almost the perfect inverse of Intel's. Intel fell completely off the wagon[1], but they did so at exactly the moment where the arc of innovation hit a wall and could do the least damage. They're merely bad, but are still selling plenty of chips and their devices work... just fine!

Apple, on the other hand, launched a shocking, world-beating product line that destroys its competition in basically all measurable ways into a market that... just doesn't care that much anymore. All the stuff we want to spend transistors on moved into the cloud. Games live on GPUs and not unified SOCs. A handful of AI nerds does not much of a market make.

And iOS... I mean, as mentioned what are you even going to do with all that? Even the comparatively-very-disappointing Pixel 10 (I haven't even upgrade my 9!) is still a totally great all-day phone with great features.

[1] As of right now, unless 18A rides in to save them, Intel's best process is almost five YEARS behind the industry leader's.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by rapind »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #23
matdehaast wrote: post #8

It feels like Intel and AMD are asleep at the wheel with their mobile lineup. I've been looking at non-apple equivalents that have similar performance/power as the M lineup and it seems they all lag about 20%+. For $800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals around.

The reduced horsepower relative to M-series isn't a problem for me as much as efficiency is. Both Intel and AMD seem to struggle with building a CPU that doesn't guzzle battery without also seriously restricting performance. This really sucks. The nice thing about high end (Mx Pro/Max) MBPs is that if you need desktop-like power, it's there, but they can also do a pretty good job pretending to be MacBook Airs and str…

> On the desktop front I think AMD has been killing it but both companies need to start from scratch for laptops.

IMO Apple is killing it with the mac mini too. Obviously not if you're gaming (that has a lot to do with the OS though), but if you're OK with the OS, it's a powerhouse for the size, noise, and energy required.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by viktorcode »

razighter777 wrote: post #38

Shame this fantastic, carefully engineered and unique technology is locked behind closed source drivers, non-upgradable hardware and tamper resistent boot processes. I love apple silicon... if only they would launch some sort of product or documentation allowing M-series processors to be practical for more general purpose computing...

> and tamper resistent boot processes

Bootloader is unlocked on Macs. That's how Asahi Linux started

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by bhouston »

Choco31415 wrote: post #48
bhouston wrote: post #5

Nice. The iPads generally measure around ~8% slower than the MacBooks, I guess for cooling reasons. So we should see approximately a 4400 single core Geekbench score for the MacBook series. This is nice. Single thread MacBook progression on Geekbench: M1: 2350 M2: 2600 M3: 3100 M4: 3850 M5: 4400 (estimated) https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks

Here’s the multi core Geekbench progression: M1: 8350 M2: 9700 M3: 11650 M4: 14600 M5: 16650 (estimated) This is assuming an 8% uplift as mentioned. Also nice.

Will the base core count and mix between perf and efficient cores remain the same? That has lead to different scaling factors for the multicore performance than the single core metrics.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by CharlesW »

razighter777 wrote: post #38

Shame this fantastic, carefully engineered and unique technology is locked behind closed source drivers, non-upgradable hardware and tamper resistent boot processes. I love apple silicon... if only they would launch some sort of product or documentation allowing M-series processors to be practical for more general purpose computing...

>, if only they would launch some sort of product or documentation allowing M-series processors to be practical for more general purpose computing...

Apple isn't the only company who can do this, but the reason they'll continue to have the lead for the foreseeable future is for all the reasons you dislike them. This is the benefit of near-complete vertical integration.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

rapind wrote: post #55
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reduced horsepower relative to M-series isn't a problem for me as much as efficiency is. Both Intel and AMD seem to struggle with building a CPU that doesn't guzzle battery without also seriously restricting performance. This really sucks. The nice thing about high end (Mx Pro/Max) MBPs is that if you need desktop-like power, it's there, but they can also do a pretty good job pretending to be MacBook Airs and str…

> On the desktop front I think AMD has been killing it but both companies need to start from scratch for laptops. IMO Apple is killing it with the mac mini too. Obviously not if you're gaming (that has a lot to do with the OS though), but if you're OK with the OS, it's a powerhouse for the size, noise, and energy required.

Yeah for most "normal" users the Mini is pretty ideal. It's got enough power that it's overkill for most folks while being the least intrusive a desktop could possibily be: it's tiny, it doesn't have a power brick, it doesn't make any noise, and it's not going to impact your power bill hardly at all.
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