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Re: Kagi News

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Post by amarant »

devmor wrote: post #37
__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

The line “news stories will be generated” throws up red flags across the horizon for me. That’s not news. That’s news-adjacent random slop.

And yet, after trying it, I have to admit it's more informative and less provocative than any other news source I've seen since at least 2005.

I don't know how they do it, and I'm not sure I care, the result is they've eliminated both clickbait and ragebait, and the news are indeed better off for it!

Re: Kagi News

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Post by hn111 »

tower-shield wrote: post #116

I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.

I used to love Proton, but they focus too much on feature development instead of stability and fixing long-standing bugs. E.g. zooming has been broken for years in ProtonMail on iOS. Some emails won’t even render at all :(

Re: Kagi News

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Post by dingaling »

al_borland wrote: post #136

I’ve been using this for a few days now. I stumbled across it in the App Store last week. I hoping this can fill a gap for me currently. I want something that will give me broad awareness of big news I should probably know about, that’s not a 24 hour firehose of news. I like the once-per-day update and the relatively short list of stories. The jury is still out on how sticky it will be, in terms of being my go-to pla…

The Economist's 'World in Brief' might appeal:

https://www.economist.com/the-world-in-brief

Re: Kagi News

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Post by rsingel »

Looks like yet another aggregator that will send almost no referral traffic to the folks who actually put labor into writing.

Parasitic by definition.

And embracing the news from nowhere perspective.

So both a parasite and boring at the same time.

I wish more tech folks who want to "fix the news" would learn from Gabe Rivera's Techmeme, Memeorandum, and Mediagazer.

He's done aggregation right for 20 years

Re: Kagi News

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Post by hadlock »

atonse wrote: post #56
__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

I'm genuinely asking, but have you tried it? https://kite.kagi.com It actually seems more like an aggregator (like ground.news) to me. And pretty much every single sentence cites the original article(s). There are nice summaries within an article. I think what they mean is that they generate a meta-article after combining the rest of them. There's nothing novel here. But the presentation of the meta-article and publi…

Publishing once a day to remove the "slot machine dopamine hit" is worth it for that alone. I have forever been looking for a peer/replacement to Google News, I was about to pony up for a Ground News subscription but I'll probably hold off for a couple more months. Alternatives to google news have been sorely lacking for over a decade, especially since google news got their mobile-first redesign which significantly and permanently weakened the product to meet some product manager's bonus-linked KPI. One more product to wean off the google mothership. Gmail is gonna be real hard though.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by maelito »

It's funny how awkward the French version is.

- Parquet de Paris ouvre 24 enquêtes pour menaces

- Update: famille et experte ADN au procès Jubillar

- Intersyndicale appelle à la grève du 2 octobre

This won't be used by French speakers as is.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by bl4ckneon »

tower-shield wrote: post #116

I like Kagi and want them to succeed. But currently (according to LinkedIn) theres 26 employees. They are building search, LLM assistant wrappers, a browser and now news. Please don't overextend the same way Proton is currently doing.

How is Proton over extending? All of their services are pretty great imo. I'm happy with them. Doesn't mean I am ever going to use their bitcoin wallet app thing, but if they want to build it, great, they know their customer base so it's probably not out of left field.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by msqinfo »

Just plugging my service, https://mosaique.info/. It only uses an LLM to generate a short summary, and other ML algorithms structure the information (comments from officials and experts, classification...).

I'm currently working on a major overhaul to provide more holistic context around news by better surfacing less-discussed events.

Re: Kagi News

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Post by ivape »

__jonas wrote: post #23

Just to be clear I'm understanding correctly: This is pulling the content of the RSS feeds of several news sites into the context window of an LLM and then asking it to summarize news items into articles and fill in the blanks? I'm asking because that is what it looks like, but AI / LLMs are not specifically mentioned in this blog post, they just say news are 'generated' under the 'News in your language' heading, whi…

ML did not figure out every solution on planet earth. It figured out the LLM, and that is the giant's shoulder most apps will stand on.
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