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Re: The Apple Reaper

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I changed the summary text of my apps to say that I disagreed with Apple's patent lawsuits and that I would be removing them from the app store once I'd had a chance to distribute updates to existing users for any issues with iOS 6. The next day my apps disappeared from the store with no notice or explanation. I will never invest in a platform with this kind of arbitrary, totalitarian control again. Goodbye & good ri…

+1 right on, do what you feel is right.

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Because for Apple and it's customers the app review process is not broken. It's only frustrating for of app developers. Looking over the App store, if anything there is an over abundance of app developers.

I agree there's an over abundance of app developers. I wonder if the costs to Apple in terms of hosting all the free apps, paying reviewers, dealing with refunds and dealing with rejection appeals just isn't worth it? However in a way the review process is broken for customers. Say I have a free app with 100 reviews and a 5-star average. The app has been downloaded on average 90 times per day for a year and the month…

I would suggest if the example app with 100 reviews and ninety downloads a day was rejected, users would just buy a similar app.

Users are happy, ignorate that another app that may have been better was rejected. Apple is happy because revenue is revenue. Only the developer of the rejected app is not.

Re: The Apple Reaper

#83
Reality check: the iTunes Store sales represent 4% of Apple total revenue.

As long as there is a sufficient selection of movies, music, and apps to keep the iPhone compelling, Apple doesn't need to foster a "long tail" app catalogue.

Re: The Apple Reaper

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post #74

I changed the summary text of my apps to say that I disagreed with Apple's patent lawsuits and that I would be removing them from the app store once I'd had a chance to distribute updates to existing users for any issues with iOS 6. The next day my apps disappeared from the store with no notice or explanation. I will never invest in a platform with this kind of arbitrary, totalitarian control again. Goodbye & good ri…

Not that I disapprove of the sentiment, but wasn't announcing the reason you were dropping support the equivalent of waving a red flag in front of a bull?

Yes, but I thought they'd be professional enough to at least let me know they were removing them from the store listings. Instead they just yanked them without notice and let me deal with the customer fallout.

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#85

Honest question: why hasn't Apple fixed this fucking stupid review process? They have the resources to pay cheap reviewers who are probably better than this guy. I'm sure college kids with no job prospects would jump to "work at Apple" even if it's making $10/hour reviewing apps. Why not allow all apps into the store as long as they pass some security checks done by Apple (no downloading executables etc)? The current…

Easy answer, spaghetti; Apple didn't build their review process for developers first, they built it for their users and Apple Inc (not necessarily in that order). As a developer, I want free and easy access to the App store to upload my apps. As a user, I want a selection of the safest, highest quality, predictable and elegantly design applications. Apple Inc, as a for profitable organization, wants to ensure that th…

As a user, I want a selection of the safest, highest quality, predictable and elegantly design applications.

They've utterly failed to deliver that. They've been mostly successful in limiting outright malware but the store is absolutely bursting at the seams with cheap, crappy apps and scams. At this point they'd be better off delegating malware detection to an algorithm and using their editorial control to surface the good apps.

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Well, 99.99% of the millions of people queuing up for iPhone 5 don't know about stuff like this and some don't care even if they do. If the Kindle app lacks the ability to buy books, they will blame Amazon the for lack of that feature and not even linking to the Amazon.com page to buy. This is losing battle regardless of a few HN'ers switching to alternate platforms because of this. Same as with the patent case again…

Yes, I definitely worry that of the many negative impacts of Apple's patent lawsuits that the worst might be creating a popular constituency that has begun to believe in the legitimacy of our deeply broken patent system.

It literally sickens me.

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As someone who's spent the better part of the last two years building a framework for mobile applications (jQuery Mobile) with the primary purpose of supporting as many platforms as possible I can tell you that mobile safari is hands down the best mobile browser out there today. You could make the case that Apple's patent threats around the touch event spec are holding things back (not having a standard here is makin…

I'd certainly agree that Mobile Safari is superior to the stock Gingerbread browser (and even the stock ICS browser, to a lesser extent). That being said, are you asserting that Mobile Safari is "hands down" better than other members of the current generation of mobile browsers (Chrome for Android, Firefox Mobile, Opera Mobile, etc.)? To me, that seems like a much, much harder case to make.

First and most importantly lets highlight an exceptionally important issue that well equipped web developers _always_ seem to forget: 2.X was 84% of Android market share as recently as a month ago. ICS and Jellybean are tiny by comparison.

Leaving that aside, Android's stock browser and Chrome still has serious issues with CSS based transformations and animations on non-trivial pages which mobile safari has handled with aplomb for the last 2 _major_ versions. This is not ICS, I'm talking about Jelly Bean. Even the newest flagship devices from HTC, the One X, can barely handle complex content animations. Again, toy examples have worked for a very long time but anything exceeding the compositing engines tile size just falls over completely.

Unrelated to animations, here's a bug that I logged myself against 4.0:

http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=27959&...

Wherein a full width position fixed element fails to reflow on orientation change.

https://github.com/scottjehl/Device-Bugs/issues

If you look at the issues we've recorded over time you'll see there are plenty of iOS issues there too, but the degree of pain caused by them is vanishingly small when weighed against those we've dealt with from Android.

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#88

Well, I am just glad that Android, Windows Phone and Windows 8 store apps don't have this stupid restriction if you don't use their payment systems. Walled garden and 30% forced cut of app sales is one thing, but a forced 30% cut of every in-app sale is like erecting a toll booth on all apps. Gruber's explanation of "Apple does it because it can, and the people complaining are just jealous that Apple can and they can…

The html5 assertion is bunk: there are things that can not even be expressed in html5/js which are ubiquitous in native apps. An example is true honest to god no bs no excuses no hand waving thread spawn. As in truly concurrent threads, as comcurrent as the os allows, not some interstitial vm allows, not js worker threads. The j2se JVM gets that right but Ruby and Python do not, but there are no shortages of excuses as to why.

Re: The Apple Reaper

#89

Well, I am just glad that Android, Windows Phone and Windows 8 store apps don't have this stupid restriction if you don't use their payment systems. Walled garden and 30% forced cut of app sales is one thing, but a forced 30% cut of every in-app sale is like erecting a toll booth on all apps. Gruber's explanation of "Apple does it because it can, and the people complaining are just jealous that Apple can and they can…

So Gruber is some kind of paid blogger for Apple? His stuff always ends up on the front page of HN. What's up with that?

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"Apple: “If your app is cross-platform, then 11.2 does not apply and this problem goes away" Me: "Really, so if I build an Android version and launch it, I’m good?" Apple: "Yes” Is the above right? Doesn't seem to hold. If it is so, why does the Kindle app still seem to obey the 11.2, despite being cross-platform?

Hey, I for one am glad Apple is encouraging developers to build apps for Android. Maybe developers will actually start developing for Android first, considering this keeps happening, and worst case scenario, they remain with the Android app, if Apple completely rejects it. If they have just the iOS app, they might just give up for good. The fact that Google has just made a Java 2 Object-C translator tool and that the…

yeah well except for the fact that you really dont make us any money. we make android apps because we are expected to, not because its a good business decision....
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