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Gold hits all time high

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What is it about gold, anyways? None of its useful properties were known until recently (and mostly overhyped and upsold tbh, at least as far as those stupid cables go). Are we really just instinctively attracted to shiny metals? Or do people like it as a status symbol? (not to act like im above it all, i still have my gold-plated pokemon jigglypuff trading card from burger king in 1999 and i often use golden paint o…

Scarcity

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The drivers of this in my view are:

1) flight from USD assets given views that one cannot depend on US assets as safe havens

2) central banks increasing gold holdings

3) purchases by Chinese investors as they have few places to invest their money

4) concern around debt levels deficits and democratic process ability to fix this

5) concerns around central bank independence, and hence inflation targeting, being undermined for political motivations

I have personally bought a lot of gold after having been a long term US equities investor because of its risk-off and zero duration nature. In a world of stock bubbles, high valuations, and general economic uncertainty, leaning risk-off has been where I currently feel comfortable. In a world of inflation being in zero duration is a sensible place to be.

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Yeah I do not see why this is worthy of interest. Gold is pretty much always appreciating.

Gold has a pretty stable value over long periods of time; the famous quote is: > an ounce of gold in Roman times bought a nice suit, and today, an ounce of gold buys a nice suit. Consequently it's the standard safe store of value investors flee to when the world is in upheaval, a role it has played since well before Roman times. Its price being high is a standard indicator of investors fearing miserable times ahead.…

An ounce is what -- 3800 USD now? That is indeed a nice suit.

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I thought gold being high is a "fear" indicator

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It's an indicator that they think they'll be able to feed more of their greed with $1 of gold than $1 of something else.

Nothing fundamental about gold that links it to greed, just it's value and return.

So yes, it tells you something more than "Amount Of Greed". And that may well be "Fear of losses (or even just reduced gains) in the market"

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Gold, silver, stocks, real estate, Bitcoin, baseball cards, fine art, Rolexes - everything is trading at or near their all time highs. The value of the US dollar is simply going down.

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What is it about gold, anyways? None of its useful properties were known until recently (and mostly overhyped and upsold tbh, at least as far as those stupid cables go). Are we really just instinctively attracted to shiny metals? Or do people like it as a status symbol? (not to act like im above it all, i still have my gold-plated pokemon jigglypuff trading card from burger king in 1999 and i often use golden paint o…

The short version is that its in limited supply, it has luxury value (think jewelry or artisan crafting), and its doesn't corrode. So it's a supply and demand issue. There is basically always the same amount, kings want it, and it doesn't ever disappear.

It s superior to currency because while (for example) the US dollar will always have value as long as you pay taxes with it, there is not a limited supply

It is superior to bartering because while (for example) a chicken has value due to its utility as food, it naturally disappears (because you ate it or it died).

Gold and other precious metals sort of sit in the middle ground as the "next best thing" to almost everything that humans want. So it remains a useful means of preserving and communicating value.

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Good time to remind everybody that the Fed, the US central bank, prices gold at $42.22 for some reason and nobody questions it ever. And all those dignified educated respectable board members and econ PhDs give speeches about science-based market economy, maintaining credibility and staying away from politics while caring about the wellbeing of households and families.

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What is it about gold, anyways? None of its useful properties were known until recently (and mostly overhyped and upsold tbh, at least as far as those stupid cables go). Are we really just instinctively attracted to shiny metals? Or do people like it as a status symbol? (not to act like im above it all, i still have my gold-plated pokemon jigglypuff trading card from burger king in 1999 and i often use golden paint o…

>Are we really just instinctively attracted to shiny metals?

Probably. https://www.desertusa.com/animals/packrats.html

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It's an indicator that they think they'll be able to feed more of their greed with $1 of gold than $1 of something else. Nothing fundamental about gold that links it to greed, just it's value and return. So yes, it tells you something more than "Amount Of Greed". And that may well be "Fear of losses (or even just reduced gains) in the market"

I never claimed gold is the fundamental indicator of greed. It's just one of many greed indicators. And greed is at all time high. Including gold.

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What is it about gold, anyways? None of its useful properties were known until recently (and mostly overhyped and upsold tbh, at least as far as those stupid cables go). Are we really just instinctively attracted to shiny metals? Or do people like it as a status symbol? (not to act like im above it all, i still have my gold-plated pokemon jigglypuff trading card from burger king in 1999 and i often use golden paint o…

What is it about Bitcoin over the thousands of other altcoins that have the exact same properties? A large enough group of people picked Bitcoin and said "this is the one". That's basically it. Same thing happened with gold at some point in human history and we just stuck to it.
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